cut on my lip

[cookietwist]

hi...i have a cut on my bottom lip and it wont heal until i will stop playing for some time.the problem is that im in an orchestra and i need to play every day.i have this cut over a month.im afraid it could harm me if i wont stop.what shuold i need to do?
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SDSD

[spitvalve]

Find a sub and let your lip heal.
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[BeboppinFool]

Chris LaBarbera told me about Zim's Crack Creme for the lips. You can order it online. I recently bought two tubes (about $4.00 US each) and keep one in my case and the other near my bed.

I understand what you're going through, trust me, so the first chance you get to take some time off, be sure to keep it covered in Zim's and don't play until you absolutely have to. But use it in the mean time until you get that time off.

I "lost" about 14 years of being able to play trumpet because I didn't take care of cuts on the lip (very long story), so I hope you don't have to go through that.
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Puttin’ On The Ritz

[cookietwist]

wow realy 14 years???im starting to get nervous about this cut.i can take a time off for only a week.i hope it will heal in this amount of time.and i would be glad to hear your story about your cuts on the lip and that because of that you lost 14 years of your playing...
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SDSD

[Ed Lee]

[Cunuckle Head]

Just an idea (and I have not tried this myself), but what about that liquid band-aid stuff. I have never used this on my lip, but have used it on other sensitive areas with great success. Things seem to heal up quite quickly with when I use it. I cannot see it interfering with your playing much (no more that a cut lip at any rate) and it should buy you some time until you can get some rest. I cannot see it doing any harm.
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Rick

[cookietwist]

can someone give me a link to a zim crack or other cream that can help??
oh and another thing i didint mentioned:the cut on my lip is inside the mouth in the inner lower lip...so i dont think i couldput any cream on it??
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SDSD

[Cunuckle Head]

Inside the lip. Oh, then I would not try the liquid band-aid stuff on it.
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Rick

[The Kraken]

Super glue the cut shut, ice it, make sure it does not swell, cream it up with something, take some over the counter pain meds. Then see a DOC ASAP !!

Emergency Treatment crude but effective.
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[BeboppinFool]

[jhatpro]

Listen to Spitvalve. If Freddie had he might have had a longer career.
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[The Kraken]

[leadtpt1955]

Funny thing...I was just reading an interview with Eric Miyashiro where he talks about chop problems:

Any chop problems / solutions you've personally had you can share?

I have had so many chop problems, I don't know where to begin. I used to use crazy-glue to patch up my cuts on my chops when I was on Buddy's band. Basically being a lead player means "You have to do it!". Buddy and Maynard told me once that the audience shouldn't care or don't need to know how your chops feel, they deserve your best in any given night. Most chop problems starts with over playing your limits. But if you are a lead player on a road band, you can't send in a sub or take a night off. The "Art of Pacing" is a must for any trumpet player.

And from the Krazy Glue site itself:

Cyanoacrylate proved valuable to military surgeons during the Vietnam War.

Under battlefield conditions, they could use the material to close wounds and stop bleeding. Today, specific formulations of cyanoacrylate have been developed for medical use.

Instant Krazy Glue® products should not be used for wound care

Glad they put that last line in there
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Rick

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[Crazy Finn]

You'd probably be surprised how quickly your cut would heal if it had a chance.

I don't think it's anything to get freaked about. Stuff like this happens all the time. Take a week off, and it and you should be fine.

Is it a real "cut" as in sliced deeply into the lip, or a crack - from dryness and wear - that broke open and started to bleed and swell. I've had more than a few of the latter and they heal up pretty well, pretty quickly - if you don't abuse your lips.
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[Cunuckle Head]

There is some surgical glue that ER Doc friend uses for all sorts of wounds, but I am not sure if it can be used inside the mouth. Also, there is some canker medication that can be used inside the mouth that seals off the open sore. Again, temp. solutions. Rest and a doctor if it doesn't heal.
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Rick

[Socrates]

I am going through something like this myself right now albeit a little different. Mine is inside my upper lip where it touches the corner of one of my front teeth. Not really a cut(never bleed or anything) but definitely irritated and what some may call a crack. It only hurts for a little when I warm up and after that it's fine.

Obviously rest would be the best option, and I did take today off. However, as a working musician giving a full recital in a couple weeks and other gigs I can't really take a week off. I have had some pretty taxing performances in the past couple of weeks with no problems at all.

I guess all I can say is that if you can, take time off. If you're ever have serious lip pain, or bleeding when playing by all means stop playing!! But if it's not much of a problem I would say just be mindful of it, be careful and when you can stop playing for a while and let it heal!

Just my 2 cents.

[Paul T.]

Socrates,

When I started applying a lot of Reinhardt advice, I quickly developed some extra upper register, but started having pain from one of my front teeth cutting into the inside of my top lip.

However, once I figured out how to use my jaw, as described by Reinhardt, that problem disappeared completely, since it allows me to take pressure off the top lip and keep it from curling or rubbing against the teeth..

I don't know if that's the case for you, but it's worth looking into, I imagine!

[BeboppinFool]

[TrumpetMD]

I agree with many of the replies, that you should rest it.

Orabase may help provide symptomatic relief. The petroleum base gel it's forumulated in would likely help wound healing. However, it contains kenalog, which is a steroid that could actually slow down wound healing (although it's at a very low dose), but might help if there's a lot of swelling. So there are pluses and minuses. But it seems to help BeboppinFool, which is great.

Other treatments would be warm salt water gargles and a soft diet to avoid mechanical trauma. Also, I would limit the use of peroxide or antiseptic mouthwashes. These will disinfect the cut, but will hurt the new tissue being formed.

I also agree about getting a doctor to see any slow-healing or atypical-looking cut on your lip. It may be something other than a simple cut.

[Cunuckle Head]

A little advise from Freddie Hubbard about playing with lip problems:

http://www.shout.net/~jmh/articles/freddie01.html
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Rick