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garrett
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Representing Old school Southwind 96-97 (when it was in Montgomery, AL. and wore red white and black, not gold and black)
And 99 Phantom Regiment (SUTA)
Graduated from JSU (blow southerners) so pretty much every brass player that was worth their salt at that school marched for one division 1 corp or another.
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trapeter
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| mchs3d wrote: | | Drum Corps can be good for the right people. You have to really want to do it, though, because it can be lots of work. I'm not a hater, I just chose not to do it for various reasons. I don't really enjoy marching, and I need my summers, so that pretty much ruled out any corps. As far as playing quality goes, being in a drum corps doesn't mean much. I knew a drum corps guy in high school who auditioned at my college at least two times and did not get in. On the other hand, Chris Martin was in a drum corps. We all know where he ended up. |
Michael Martin (Chris's bro) also marched corps and is being very successful in the "classical" arena. |
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dbacon
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I'd recomend drum corps for one season for most advanced, well developed chop wise, young players...as long as they know it's not the Chicago Symphony.
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| trptdork wrote: | You can be a trumpet player or a musician, or on rare occasion, both.
Too many of us are merely trumpet players.
Trumpet playing can be a sport, or an art.
Unfortunately, it's too often the former.
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I must confess that it's my opinion that many of the trumpet players I meet are what I refer to as "beaters". For them it really does seem more like sport. If they hit all the notes and get to the end of the piece without taking it down an octave then there's high-fives all around. That there's any artistry seems a distant concern.
In all fairness I do feel that the trumpet is uniquely physically demanding and it's all many of can do just to hit all the notes. I think that this does make it easy to stay perpetually in this mode. With other instruments like the sax, players frequently get past the ability to produce the expected range fairly soon in their development then they relatively quickly move on to other more nuanced aspects like improvization.
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Joe Bussing
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Speaking as a member of the audience, I love DCI performances. I understand the arguments concerning musicality verses physical playing. My take on it is that there is a place for everything. I never played in a corps, but I am a reasonably sophisticated amateur musician. I am conservatory trained, play in a wind ensemble, and over the past year attended three operas, three musicals, two symphony concerts and two DCI competitions.
Frankly, I marvel at the physicality of the Corps and do I like hearing a line of trumpets nail an E above hi-C. Do I want to hear it every day? No. Do I want to sit in a concert hall and hear it? No. But damn! I do love it on a football field! And let’s not forget there a whole visual feast happening on the field as well. |
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dbacon
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"nuanced aspects like improvization."......and phrasing, telling a story...playing the music and not the instrument!
I saw an online video of a guy playing a triple E...would that be a noise he'd enjoy doing each day?
I knew Bud Brisbois just a little...he'd play very exciting sounds lifting the band (like Maynard) when he'd play well above that...but few artists can really master that register and use it to make the music exciting..too many guys just dig the ego thing..Faddis does that, George Graham certainly did, Wayne....but that squeely noise....ugh..make music not noise.
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Back to DCI...
The Cavaliers look awesome this year, with the potential to win out, if not for DCI judges giving BD 10 points just for showing up and not forgetting to come on the field..
The Blue Devils are as usual playing a book and doing a drill that is technically challenging, the drum line is insane, but the mirror thing is way to gimmicky, and shouldn't be enough on its own, but I fear it will, much as last year.
Madison is the best they've looked in years, Rhapsody had the crowd totally into it, but the technical difficulty just wasn't there.
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| Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2010 4:21 pm Post subject: thanks |
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| dbacon wrote: | "nuanced aspects like improvization."......and phrasing, telling a story...playing the music and not the instrument!
I saw an online video of a guy playing a triple E...would that be a noise he'd enjoy doing each day?
I knew Bud Brisbois just a little...he'd play very exciting sounds lifting the band (like Maynard) when he'd play well above that...but few artists can really master that register and use it to make the music exciting..too many guys just dig the ego thing..Faddis does that, George Graham certainly did, Wayne....but that squeely noise....ugh..make music not noise. |
Am I mistaken or did you really mean that Bud Brisbois played well above TRIPLE E? To me and most others, that's the E above Dbl C so can you please point me to some recordings of him playing well abovethat? Thanks. |
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dbacon
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| billybobb wrote: | | dbacon wrote: | "nuanced aspects like improvization."......and phrasing, telling a story...playing the music and not the instrument!
I saw an online video of a guy playing a triple E...would that be a noise he'd enjoy doing each day?
I knew Bud Brisbois just a little...he'd play very exciting sounds lifting the band (like Maynard) when he'd play well above that...but few artists can really master that register and use it to make the music exciting..too many guys just dig the ego thing..Faddis does that, George Graham certainly did, Wayne....but that squeely noise....ugh..make music not noise. |
Am I mistaken or did you really mean that Bud Brisbois played well above TRIPLE E? To me and most others, that's the E above Dbl C so can you please point me to some recordings of him playing well abovethat? Thanks. |
Relax brother...Bud played well to Double G above Double C....I don't worry about which E is tripple something....don't miss the noise point..
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| RandyTX wrote: | Back to DCI...
The Cavaliers look awesome this year, with the potential to win out, if not for DCI judges giving BD 10 points just for showing up and not forgetting to come on the field..
The Blue Devils are as usual playing a book and doing a drill that is technically challenging, the drum line is insane, but the mirror thing is way to gimmicky, and shouldn't be enough on its own, but I fear it will, much as last year.
Madison is the best they've looked in years, Rhapsody had the crowd totally into it, but the technical difficulty just wasn't there. |
Yeah, BD's show is awesome, But I do agree with the dislike of the mirrors. But too be honest, I think a lot of corps have been implementing too many props in probably the last 6 or 7 years. Cavies and Scouts are awesome, and Carolina Crown is tearin' it up too.
I hear a lot about Judges' bias towards BD, but being that many of the people in my college bad marched BD at some point, or are marching this year, not to mention 90% of our staff being BD staff, I'm slightly BD biased as well.
I think Vanguard is a flop this year though...too bad, because I like them too!
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RandyTX
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| Take it 8va wrote: |
Yeah, BD's show is awesome, But I do agree with the dislike of the mirrors. But too be honest, I think a lot of corps have been implementing too many props in probably the last 6 or 7 years. Cavies and Scouts are awesome, and Carolina Crown is tearin' it up too.
I hear a lot about Judges' bias towards BD, but being that many of the people in my college bad marched BD at some point, or are marching this year, not to mention 90% of our staff being BD staff, I'm slightly BD biased as well.
I think Vanguard is a flop this year though...too bad, because I like them too! |
The biggest problem with the BD show is the music. It's *very* dissonant, and just not fun to listen to. Hard? Yes. Good Music that you want to hear again? No.
Don't get me wrong, I've been a fan of a lot of the BD shows, going back to the late 70s, but the last few years just are too much like a circus act, and the music isn't involving. They play it almost perfectly, but bad music played perfectly is worse than great music played well.
The Cavaliers this year remind me of a DCI show from the golden era with G bugles. Judging by the reaction from the crowd in San Antonio, I clearly was not in the minority opinion.
To give you an idea what I like and wish DCI would gravitate back toward, think Madison '88.
I felt it was rather obvious that they (Cavies) wiped the floor with the BD show in San Antonio, along with everyone else, but they still finished 2 pts behind BD.
Carolina Crown was the corps I wanted to see most this year, after last year's show. However, they were very flat in SA this year. Might have just been an off performance for them, they had a fair number of holes, might have had some people out sick or something. About the only memorable thing from the show was that they were all using gold lacquer instruments, whereas iirc every other corps was all silver.
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Blue Devils win #14!
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Yeah, most dissonant, literally unlistenable show ever, crowd totally didn't get into it apart from BD alum, and yet it wins. Technically hard music, very challenging, and when it's over you're relieved because it's hard to listen to.
That's apparently what the judges like now. I far preferred the Cavaliers show this year, and honestly, the crowd LOVED the madison scouts show, they literally went crazy for them, but the music was GOOD music, not "insanely hard", but outstanding. As in people standing up and cheering through the whole thing. So of course, they finished in 10th. Makes perfect sense, right?
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VERY strong finals group this year, IMO.
Loved Madison. Congrats to Bluecoats on making the top three! Props to BD, who I think is just a step ahead of everyone else in performance level right now, regardless of what some people think of their music and visual design. |
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