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Tuba Veteran Member
Joined: 23 Aug 2010 Posts: 164
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Posted: Tue Nov 02, 2010 8:43 pm Post subject: Pro Trumpet Poll |
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To all my friends at Trumpet Herald, I am taking a poll. For those who own "Pro" Trumpets which one do you own, and what about this horn in particular works for you.
This is for my benefit as I am trying to broaden my horizons and further educate myself about Trumpets and the Trumpet playing community.
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Christian K. Peters Heavyweight Member
Joined: 12 Nov 2001 Posts: 1532 Location: Eugene, Oregon
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Posted: Tue Nov 02, 2010 9:06 pm Post subject: pro trumpet poll |
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Hello,
You should have put a poll up...But otherwise browse my signature. _________________ Christian K. Peters
Schilke Loyalist since 1976 |
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Maarten van Weverwijk Heavyweight Member
Joined: 04 Jan 2006 Posts: 3377
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Posted: Tue Nov 02, 2010 10:30 pm Post subject: |
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I'm happy to help, but many people here have a whole bunch of differently pitched "pro" instruments.
Do you really want to read about every instrument we own? Wouldn't you prefer to narrow the choice down to just Bb-tpts?
I'm a classical player; my main tool box contains 8 or 10 instruments that I earn my money with, but I've got many more. I know several TH members who have collections of over 100 pro-trumpets/cornets/flügels...
Where do we start, where do we stop?
In general:
Ignoring the great importance of mouthpiece choice for a minute, to me the ideal professional instrument is one I don't ever have to fight or adjust. It enables me to just concentrate on making music and allows me to produce the sound that I have in mind. If something goes wrong, I want to be sure it is because of me, not because of the instrument's shortcomings (so I can "work on it"). In other words, I want to set the limits, they shouldn't be marked by the horn.
The instrument should also be flexible sound wise and should have great pitch, response, feedback and projection (see other recent threads). A precise definition of what is good response, feedback and projection may depend on the type of music you are using the instrument for.
And... what works well for me, might hold another player back from doing his/her thing with freedom.
Main instruments:
Schagerl Charis C & Bb tpts, Schagerl Hörsdorf C & Bb rotaries, Getzen 810-C & 3850-Bb cornets, Yamaha 9630 Eb-only, Selmer vintage piccolos, Yamaha 631 flügelhorn, Egger Ehe & Haas natural tpts, etc.
MvW.
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tptguy Jerome Callet Forum Moderator
Joined: 11 Nov 2001 Posts: 3380 Location: Philadelphia, Pa
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Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2010 12:10 am Post subject: |
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Callet SIMA Bb - I've owned just about every top pro horn imagineable and I sold them all once I played a SIMA. The SIMA Bbs are being played by top jazz, latin, lead, and orchestral players and I find it equally suits every genre, a rare attribute. For me, this horn has more power, better intonation and more richness in the sound than any other. And, it's easier to play than any other. I've played over 200 gigs on this horn and both the audience and fellow musicians have really noticed the difference - awesome trumpet. - Kyle |
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Hack001 Heavyweight Member
Joined: 20 Jun 2004 Posts: 1685
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Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2010 2:35 am Post subject: |
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If you're trying to get an accurate survey of the working professional's instrument trends, this is probably the worst place in the world to ask.
I play Bach Strad Bb and C horns, my picc is a Selmer Paris _________________ Practicing is for the insecure. |
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jhatpro Heavyweight Member
Joined: 17 Mar 2002 Posts: 10204 Location: The Land Beyond O'Hare
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Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2010 4:29 am Post subject: |
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Bach 180-37 Bb (sold core "Bach" sound; my go to horn)
Bach 180-72R Bb with Nurenburg leadpipe (dark, thick jazz sound)
Yamaha Mark II C with 25H leadpipe (big orchestral sound)
Paris LeBlanc Bb balanced model large bore (nimble jazz player)
Holton Llewellyn Bb vintage (big orchestral sound)
Benge picc with Blackburn A pipe (great intonation)
Conn 80A cornet (bright Dixie sound)
Getzen 800S large bore cornet (mellow brass band sound)
Getzen Eb soprano cornet (surprisingly good intonation)
Paris LeBlanc flugel (a very mellow fellow) _________________ Jim Hatfield
"The notes are there - find them.†Mingus
2021 Martinus Geelan Custom
2005 Bach 180-72R
1965 Getzen Eterna Severinsen
1946 Conn Victor
1998 Scodwell flugel
1986 Bach 181 cornet
1954 Conn 80A cornet
2002 Getzen bugle |
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Brad361 Heavyweight Member
Joined: 16 Dec 2007 Posts: 7080 Location: Houston, TX.
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Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2010 5:06 am Post subject: |
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Hack001 wrote: | If you're trying to get an accurate survey of the working professional's instrument trends, this is probably the worst place in the world to ask. |
Ouch! That's a little harsh, I think, but ok, point taken. And while there are many "hobbyists" here (and there's nothing wrong with that, there are some VERY good musicians who choose to play gratis), there are people here who play for compensation (myself included, albeit part time) as well.
Brad361
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Dale Proctor Heavyweight Member
Joined: 26 May 2005 Posts: 9372 Location: Heart of Dixie
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Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2010 5:09 am Post subject: |
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I'll list only my Bb trumpet, which is probably what you're asking for. It's a 1976 Bach Strad, silver plate, ML bore, 25 leadpipe, 43 bell. This horn has terrific intonation, is easy to play, has an easy upper register, and has no mechnical shortcomings. I've owned it since the early 1980's, and even though I've owned and played numerous other Bb trumpets over the years, I keep coming back to this one as THE horn.
BTW, the OP didn't ask for pro trumpet players, he asked for players of pro trumpets... _________________ "Brass bands are all very well in their place - outdoors and several miles away ." - Sir Thomas Beecham |
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TupeloCOTA Veteran Member
Joined: 20 Oct 2009 Posts: 305 Location: Mississippi
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Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2010 5:17 am Post subject: |
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1975 LA Benge 3X+
Great jazz/commercial horn. OK in classical situations. |
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tk1031 Veteran Member
Joined: 18 Apr 2010 Posts: 488 Location: Singapore
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Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2010 6:23 am Post subject: |
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Schagerl Gansch "Vienna": It just works! Bflat trumpet
Scherzer B-flat/A Picc: Because I couldn't afford the Schagerl Tristan
Schlub Brass "Damar" Flugelhorn: Because it is the best 4 valve flugel I have ever played. _________________ Schagerl "Gansch" Vienna Trumpet Schagerl "Gansch" Horsdorf Heavy
Schlub "Damar" 4 valve Flugelhorn
Zirnbauer Piccolo Bd/A |
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Yammie Heavyweight Member
Joined: 22 Feb 2005 Posts: 819 Location: sunny Sarasota, FL
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Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2010 7:00 am Post subject: Bread and butter |
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I have a fleet of horns, but over the past ten years I've played virtually every gig on two horns - a Yamaha 8310Z up until about two years ago, and now a 1965 Conn Connstellation 36B. My niche is commercial lead playing, but I guess listing a Connstellation would lead one to understand I'm not playing principal in a major symphony _________________ 6340S, Connstellation 36B, 38B, 38A, and 28A, Couesnon flugel, Blackburn C, Kanstul/Besson 920 picc, and a HUGE pile of Messina Covers gig bags |
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hose Heavyweight Member
Joined: 29 Jun 2003 Posts: 1854 Location: Winter Garden, FL
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Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2010 7:16 am Post subject: |
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Powell signature
Blessing 1580 (backup)
Lawler Flugel _________________ Dave Wisner
Picketts
Yamaha 6335RC
Yamaha 8335RS
Lawler Flugel
Kanstul cornet |
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Jerry Heavyweight Member
Joined: 20 Jan 2002 Posts: 2163 Location: Kennett Square, Pennsylvania
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Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2010 7:30 am Post subject: |
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Sonare 800.
Bright, thick, orchestral sound that really projects. Fairly rigid slots. Often described as a really good Bach 37, for hundreds less.
I had been playing a Schilke S-32 for years, which I (and my teacher) really liked. However, during a couple of lessons, my teacher let me play his Sonare, which he had recently obtained. We both agreed that I was playing his Sonare better than I was playing my Schilke. |
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Maarten van Weverwijk Heavyweight Member
Joined: 04 Jan 2006 Posts: 3377
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Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2010 7:34 am Post subject: Re: Bread and butter |
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Yammie wrote: | ...I guess listing a Connstellation would lead one to understand I'm not playing principal in a major symphony... |
You might be surprised, but I've used my 38b on several occasions, like West Side Story and a couple of programs with film scores. First time I took it to my orchestra (a general reh. for the Bernstein) it was just for fun, but it turned out to be the best choice for the music and not just for the louder fragments.
MvW. |
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johnnydtrumpet Veteran Member
Joined: 08 Nov 2004 Posts: 255 Location: Portland Oregon
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Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2010 8:03 am Post subject: |
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Harrelson 909 B flat - This is my horn for a large majority of work. I use this horn the most as it plays great in all situations from classical to jazz to rock. Blends wonderfully, slots great and is the most consitent horn I have played.
Harrelson Summit Jazz B flat - this is a new requisition. It is a great solo horn. Really built to allow my voice to show forth.
Quinon Flugel - Great buttery sound. This is however the one horn I would change as it is not the best for pitch and I find that I have to fight it more than I like.
Bach/Malone C - I have further modified this horn with a Harrelson trim kit. I did this and found that it opened up the upper end for me and smoothed out the slotting so that it is more comfortable for me to play on.
Schilke E flat - Wonderful sounding solo horn.
Schilke B flat/A piccolo - Solid and consistent piccolo sound
Good luck with your inquiry.
John Dover _________________ Working everyday to dispell all the aweful truths about the trumpet players ego:) |
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J.P.S. Veteran Member
Joined: 17 Dec 2005 Posts: 151 Location: D.C.
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Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2010 8:40 am Post subject: Re: Pro Trumpet Poll |
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Tuba wrote: | For those who own "Pro" Trumpets which one do you own, and what about this horn in particular works for you. |
Bach C. 108xxx. 229 bell, 25 "S" style pipe custom made from an old LB Bb pipe. I like it for the sound and articulation.
Holton Bb. Model 47 circa. early '50s. Plays easily and reliably.
Selmer Bb/A picc. Purchased new in 1979. Better sounding than others, but not necessarily easier to play.
John
*edited for unnecessary content & length.
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Bill W Veteran Member
Joined: 26 Jan 2008 Posts: 380 Location: Delray Beach, FL
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Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2010 9:20 am Post subject: |
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I spent a day with Trent Austin and, a week later, I returned to purchase the Shires BLW that he had let me play. The coolest thing is that he had also let me play every other pro trumpet he had in his shop, (NY Trpt. Co, a Wild Thing, Carol...etc...) what an opportunity? To put it simply, try a Shires and Talk to Trent. _________________ Bill Wasserman
Shires B-LW
Shires Custom C
1962 Quesnon Flugel
http://youtube.com/watch?v=iMEHat1PXV0 Playing Maynard's "Hey There" |
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oliver king Heavyweight Member
Joined: 07 Aug 2008 Posts: 1742
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Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2010 9:23 am Post subject: |
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I bounce back and forth between a Kanstul 1500 and an Akright Blackbyrd.
- The Kanstul has a bigger leadpipe and was 'tweaked' by Chuck McAlexander at Brasslabs. It has a huge, warm sound. Great transition from note to note. Intonation is great. Articulations are a little thick on it though.
- The Blackbyrd is based on a Mt Vernon Bach. Has a much different tonal pallet to draw from. Projection is more focused. This horn has history (It used to belong to Donald Byrd) and was made by a guy I've known for 25 years. _________________ LB Bel Canto #59
Holton B47
Frankenhorn projects 1-5
Adams F1
Olds Super Tenor Trombone
Alesis QS8
B2MS3, B2GS3, |
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gregplo Heavyweight Member
Joined: 08 Jan 2002 Posts: 505 Location: North Carolina
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Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2010 9:36 am Post subject: |
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See my signature list....I AM NOT a pro... _________________ Best Regards,
Greg
Edwards Gen II
P. Mauriat PMT-75 (Ti/Copper)
Conn 61B
Benge 90B
Conn 80B LB
CarolBrass Arturo Sandoval Pocket Trumpet
CarolBrass CFL-620R
Getzen CB 610
Remember...when He returns, the trumpet shall sound.... |
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Mark Bradley Heavyweight Member
Joined: 28 Jan 2002 Posts: 1149 Location: Kansas City
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Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2010 10:40 am Post subject: |
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You can check out my Gearhead Page:
http://jazztrpt.freeservers.com/photo3.html
But if your finger is too tired to go there right now I'm playing:
Harrelson HT3 Bb with #4 bell and #4 lead pipe
Kanstul 990 (formerly Mariachi Standard)
Sonare 900
NYTC (Taylor) Broadway flugel
Getzen Capri cornet (an old one-- nice!)
GR 62S-B on trumpet, Warburton 7FLM on flugel
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