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tk1031 Veteran Member
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Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2011 3:57 pm Post subject: My New Piccolo Trumpet! |
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Love at first sight!
The Piccolo Trumpet is made by Bernhard Zirnbauer. More pictures and a full report to come, but for now... something to drool over. ![](images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif) _________________ Schagerl "Gansch" Vienna Trumpet Schagerl "Gansch" Horsdorf Heavy
Schlub "Damar" 4 valve Flugelhorn
Zirnbauer Piccolo Bd/A |
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tollaus Veteran Member
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Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2011 4:11 pm Post subject: |
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Wow!
That's pretty impressive ....
Looks great and sounds.... ? ![](images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif) |
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Ubungstickle Veteran Member
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Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2011 4:21 pm Post subject: |
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Wow that is truly beautiful. Congratulations on your new horn!
Is there a website where it has more information about this horn (or for when I am interested in buying one ) _________________ Yamaha YTR-4335G Bb
Yamaha YTR-9445CHS C
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tk1031 Veteran Member
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Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2011 4:25 pm Post subject: |
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A more detailed report when I'm not on the Blackberry. I will say this... It plays, and does not know a cieling where the trumpet just "stops." And it is good enough for the Berlin Phil, and they now have several. It comes in B/A, A, and A/G. _________________ Schagerl "Gansch" Vienna Trumpet Schagerl "Gansch" Horsdorf Heavy
Schlub "Damar" 4 valve Flugelhorn
Zirnbauer Piccolo Bd/A |
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Capt.Kirk Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2011 4:30 pm Post subject: |
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That is a really beautiful horn. I would say it has a very organic design. Nothing fancy like tons of engraving and gold and silver plating in different colors but still a very beautiful horn! I love how mechanical it looks. _________________ The only easy day was yesterday! |
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one_trumpet Veteran Member
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Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2011 4:39 pm Post subject: |
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Where does one get one of these? Its beautiful! |
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dershem Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2011 5:34 pm Post subject: |
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Huh. Now that is an interesting looking horn.
Probably beyond my price range, though. ![](images/smiles/icon_frown.gif) _________________ BKA! Mic Gillette was my mentor and friend.
Marcinkiewicz Mic G. trumpet, Custom Marcinkiewicz mpc. (Among others)
Marcinkiewicz Rembrandt flugel, Benge 8Z cornet, King 2B, Bach 36, Benge 190, Getzen 3062... many more. All Marc. mouthpieces. |
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cyber_shake Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2011 5:38 pm Post subject: |
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she is a beauty! i'd like to see a picture from each side showing your hands in playing position. very different and beautiful... _________________ Blaine
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etc-etc Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2011 5:43 pm Post subject: |
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Beautiful and somewhat reminiscent of the Gansch Schagerl. |
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tk1031 Veteran Member
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Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2011 6:11 pm Post subject: |
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Okay guys. Bernhard Zirnbauer is a valve maker. And his valves can be seen in a lot of trumpets and horns from a lot of makers. Schagerl is one of them. The style shown is a Gansch style machine set up, he also does a different kind that sets the machines out the other side, but still top action.
The piccolo feels big, has a warm sound, and does not prevent me from playing as high on the piccolo as I do on my main trumpet. I am selling my Scherzer, and saving for the A/G piccolo: I think it is that good. As I said, it is good enough for the Berlin Philharmonic to buy some, so it is good enough for me.
As for the price: It is 4100.00 euros and that includes the A pipe. People can get them from me, at that price, or they can visit Bernhard and get it for the same. He is a neat guy, the shop is a great place, and the horn is from my dreams (I told him that I have been dreaming of such a horn, but have not the tools, or the knowledge, yet, to make that come true).
From now on, the best trumpets I make will have Zirnbauer valves in them. _________________ Schagerl "Gansch" Vienna Trumpet Schagerl "Gansch" Horsdorf Heavy
Schlub "Damar" 4 valve Flugelhorn
Zirnbauer Piccolo Bd/A |
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spitvalve Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2011 7:20 pm Post subject: |
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An interesting piece of piccoloness. _________________ Bryan Fields
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1991 Bach LR180 ML 37S
1999 Getzen Eterna 700S
1977 Getzen Eterna 895S Flugelhorn
1969 Getzen Capri cornet
1995 UMI Benge 4PSP piccolo trumpet
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royjohn Heavyweight Member
Joined: 12 Jan 2005 Posts: 2272 Location: Knoxville, Tennessee
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Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2011 7:52 pm Post subject: My new piccolo trumpet |
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At the exchange rate today [1USD=1.439Euro] this trumpet costs US$5900, so it will be close to $6K with the shipping and insurance, for US buyers. I cannot find any information on the horn on the internet at all.
It is a beautiful and unusual horn, but I'm afraid it is out of reach for a lot of us. _________________ royjohn
Trumpets: 1928 Holton Llewellyn Model, 1957 Holton 51LB, 2010 Custom C by Bill Jones, 2011 Custom D/Eb by Bill Jones
Flugels: 1975 Olds Superstar, 1970's Elkhardt, 1970's Getzen 4 valve
Cornet: 1970's Yamaha YCR-233S . . . and others . . . |
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tk1031 Veteran Member
Joined: 18 Apr 2010 Posts: 488 Location: Singapore
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Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2011 12:43 am Post subject: |
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Royjohn,
There is nothing on the internet about that horn, except what I have just posted. There are no pictures either, except for the ones I have posted or will post.... Maybe should post a picture of me holding it.... it makes it a little less "unreal." As far as I know, I am the only one outside the Munich area to have one...
If you like playing piccolo, thid is a horn to save your pennies for. I think it is close to the price of the Scherzer, or the Schagerl Tristan... And it is custom made: so not a bad deal if you have been waiting for this horn to come your way. I don't have all of m old horn collection back, but I am building my collection back. I will post more pictures, and hopefully a short video soon. _________________ Schagerl "Gansch" Vienna Trumpet Schagerl "Gansch" Horsdorf Heavy
Schlub "Damar" 4 valve Flugelhorn
Zirnbauer Piccolo Bd/A |
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camel Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2011 1:09 am Post subject: |
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It is a beautiful horn... Can you say anything about intonation, ease of playing, blending, etc?
Too bad you live in Singapore. ![](images/smiles/icon_cry.gif) |
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tk1031 Veteran Member
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Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2011 3:59 pm Post subject: |
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I can camel:
It is easier to play than my Scherzer, or the Tristan, and way easier to play than my old Selmer Paris. I have my full usable range from the big trumpet to this trumpet, and it sounds big and full.
Intonation its in tune: I'm not sure about using the word "slot" but I will try. The horn slot's well. Up and down the open range (valves too). They are wider slots that my trumpet, but I have always been able to bend things more on the little trumepts. This piccolo favours a deep cup, and loves the wide open backbore on my mouthpiece (it accepts trumpet mouthpieces, but since it is made to order almost....just tell Bernhard what you are using).
I will try and get a couple more views on it from some friends here, and maybe Stumac can chime in after he stops here in Singapore. Give it time, it will make it out into the bigger parts of the net soon, and the rest of the world soon, I am sure. _________________ Schagerl "Gansch" Vienna Trumpet Schagerl "Gansch" Horsdorf Heavy
Schlub "Damar" 4 valve Flugelhorn
Zirnbauer Piccolo Bd/A |
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qcm Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2011 5:09 pm Post subject: |
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That is a really cool looking horn!
Hoping you'll post some recordings soon!
-Dave _________________ Dave Edwards
Kanstuls, LA Benges and a Selmer picc. |
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Ubungstickle Veteran Member
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Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2011 6:11 am Post subject: |
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Okay there is no other way to ask you this, so I'll just ask:
Where can I buy one? ![](images/smiles/icon_lol.gif) _________________ Yamaha YTR-4335G Bb
Yamaha YTR-9445CHS C
Schilke P5/4 Picc |
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Benge Loyalist Veteran Member
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Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2011 7:46 am Post subject: |
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That's a sho-nuff, by-gawd, fine looking piccolo. If only:
1) I had a few extra $1000 bills
2) Time to practice
3) Venue in which to play
4) Demand for my playing
It really is a paradigm shift in terms of design. Thanks for sharing and giving us a 'first look'. _________________ Benge Loyalist aka UsedBits
Benge Bb 5x ml #8162 Burbank 1969 gold
Benge C 2c+ mlp #7481 Burbank 1968 silver
Benge D/Eb ml #6579 Burbank 1965 raw brass
Benge Flugel 5 ml #17708 Los Angeles silver
Stomvi piccolo, m1
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wvtrumpet Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2011 8:18 am Post subject: |
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I would love to actually hear it..Looks like a beauty! _________________ Freelance Performer/Teacher WV, PA, MD, and OH http://www.neil-king.com
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