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barryj1
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 Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2011 7:54 am Post subject: Curry 3BBC |
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| I just received a Curry 3BBC cornet mouthpiece around the middle of last week. The tone is truly unique – very lush, round and distinctively cornet-like (i.e. this is not a semi-deep trumpet cup masquerading as a cornet mouthpiece). It is far and away the deepest mouthpiece I have ever owned and the cup volume is huge. Interestingly I find it relatively easy to play and don’t seem to be experiencing any difficulty with range or stamina. Slotting and intonation are dramatically improved on my Bach 184 ML cornet. It does take a bit of extra lung power and control but that is a small price to pay. This mouthpiece seems to draw every subtle bit of tonal color and nuance out of the horn. |
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I also received a 3BBC recently.
I agree that the sound is great, but I struggle with range and endurance on it.
I have progressed from a 3C. on a cornet shank, to a 3DC. to a 3TC. - it's gonna take a while for the 3BBC !!
In my estimation the 3TC. gets a little muddy in the low range, and just a little bright in the high range. To me, the 3BBC maintains an even tone throughout the high to low range.
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| Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 7:47 pm Post subject: Re: Curry 3BBC |
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| barryj1 wrote: | | I just received a Curry 3BBC cornet mouthpiece around the middle of last week. The tone is truly unique – very lush, round and distinctively cornet-like (i.e. this is not a semi-deep trumpet cup masquerading as a cornet mouthpiece). It is far and away the deepest mouthpiece I have ever owned and the cup volume is huge. Interestingly I find it relatively easy to play and don’t seem to be experiencing any difficulty with range or stamina. Slotting and intonation are dramatically improved on my Bach 184 ML cornet. It does take a bit of extra lung power and control but that is a small price to pay. This mouthpiece seems to draw every subtle bit of tonal color and nuance out of the horn. |
Sounds like Curry should go to NABBA and try to sell his new mouthpieces to the brass band people there...
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| Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 7:56 pm Post subject: Re: Curry 3BBC |
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| thedevilisbad wrote: | | barryj1 wrote: | | I just received a Curry 3BBC cornet mouthpiece around the middle of last week. The tone is truly unique – very lush, round and distinctively cornet-like (i.e. this is not a semi-deep trumpet cup masquerading as a cornet mouthpiece). It is far and away the deepest mouthpiece I have ever owned and the cup volume is huge. Interestingly I find it relatively easy to play and don’t seem to be experiencing any difficulty with range or stamina. Slotting and intonation are dramatically improved on my Bach 184 ML cornet. It does take a bit of extra lung power and control but that is a small price to pay. This mouthpiece seems to draw every subtle bit of tonal color and nuance out of the horn. |
Fabulous suggestion !!! I also wish Flip Oakes and I will defend my position when I know I am 100% correct and if their is something I know a lot about from both aviation, automotive and firearms it is springs, spring rates and how to manufacture springs for all of the above. I would suggest some of you guys need to seriously read some books on engineering basics and the physic's behind those basic principals. I do not mind being corrected when I am wrong but I know I am 100% correct in both theory and in practice.
Sounds like Curry should go to NABBA and try to sell his new mouthpieces to the brass band people there... |
Fabulous idea !! I also wish Flip Oakes and Joe Marcinkiewicz would have somebody there to represent their horns. I've always wanted to try their cornets out.
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barryj1
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I also progressed from a Curry DC to the TC models on trumpet. From there it was a logical transition to the Vintage Cornet and finally the 3BBC. In each instance, it took a while to develop stamina and a feel for each mouthpiece's unique properties.
Earlier today while practicing, I was trading off, back and forth, between the VC and BBC models trying to decide which I liked better. In the end, I was pleasantly surprised to realize that I like them equally as much. The BBC has a bit more brilliance and power but the VC is smooth as silk. Depending on the acoustics and the style of cornet music, I might reach for one over the other, but they are both truly wonderful mouthpieces. The deeper mouthpieces definitely take some time getting use to. |
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| barryj1 wrote: | I also progressed from a Curry DC to the TC models on trumpet. From there it was a logical transition to the Vintage Cornet and finally the 3BBC. In each instance, it took a while to develop stamina and a feel for each mouthpiece's unique properties.
Earlier today while practicing, I was trading off, back and forth, between the VC and BBC models trying to decide which I liked better. In the end, I was pleasantly surprised to realize that I like them equally as much. The BBC has a bit more brilliance and power but the VC is smooth as silk. Depending on the acoustics and the style of cornet music, I might reach for one over the other, but they are both truly wonderful mouthpieces. The deeper mouthpieces definitely take some time getting use to. |
I was extremely happy with my Curry 3VC, it was easy to play on and had a nice sound, I kept telling myself that there was no need to try the 3BBC because the 3VC was so good. However I relented and bought the 3BBC, I am glad I did it does give more sparkle to notes below the stave and when played hard the sound has a very even strong core to it.
The other three players on the front row all play the DW Heritage 3, I tried the Heritage and found the rim to be very uncomfortable, at rehearsal last night I was surprised at how well the 3BBC blended with the Heritage without any effort or concentration on my part, the notes were easy to produce and the quietest passages were a joy to play, however when the FFF was called for the sound was just so strong. Tuning was constant throughout the range.
I should know by now that it is a mistake not to try something new but it is tempting not to bother because of the costs involved, I am really glad that I bought the new mouthpiece, it sounded good during home practice and was great in the band.
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Par10
In response to your post, I have pretty much abandoned my Curry 3VC for the 3BBC model which, quite simply, gives me everything I want in a cornet mouthpiece. Additionally I picked up a 2BBC and find that even more comfortable (i.e. more volume, power and control with no appreciable loss of range or endurance). Regardless of whether it's the #3 or #2 models, the tone is gorgeous, crystal clear with pinpoint accuracy in terms of intonation. I realize that mouthpieces are a purely subjective experience, but the right mouthpiece makes it a pleasure to reach for the horn.
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| Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2011 11:55 am Post subject: curry bbbc |
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| which curry BBBC piece would be similar to a wick 3B. |
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par10
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| Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2011 12:27 am Post subject: Re: curry bbbc |
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| cornet1 wrote: | | which curry BBBC piece would be similar to a wick 3B. |
That is a hard question to answer because the 3B is a shallower mouthpiece plus the rim sizes for the curry are not shown on the web site.
The DW3B cup is 16.75 mm which is 0.6594 inches,
The Curry 5BBC cup is 0.660 inches which is extremely close.
The rim is different on the Curry, to me it is more comfortable.
The bore on the DW3B is 4.27mm, on the Curry it is 4.07mm.
Taken in isolation it would be easy to say that the bore size is to small and that the cup depth is to deep but it is all of the dimensions and shapes that make a mouthpiece work not just one dimension.
At the time I changed to Curry mouthpieces I was playing on a DW3, I was not to happy with it and tried the DW2 but this was to big in the cup diameter, I decided to try the Curry 3 which has a bigger cup diameter than the DW3 but it did not seem to be bigger when I played on it and still does not give me the impression that it is a bigger diameter than the DW3.
I hope this helps you.
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Anybody want to buy one of the 247 mouthpieces in my sock drawer so I can buy a Curry 3BBC? I love my 3VC; it would take a lot of convincing to get me to change. Still, if I were to try one.......
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| I received a 3BBC yesterday and played on it for about an hour. I am very happy with it and prefer it over my Denis Wick mpc. |
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| laser170323 wrote: | | I received a 3BBC yesterday and played on it for about an hour. I am very happy with it and prefer it over my Denis Wick mpc. |
Which Wick were you playing on ? What type of music do you mostly play with your cornet ? How is the 3BBC different from your Wick ?
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Thanks Barry and the rest of you that got me to try Curry mouthpieces on my Getzen 3850 cornet. I started with the TC, then tried the DC and BBC (all 3s). All are good options for me, though I prefer the DC overall. Great sound and a rim that feels very comfortable to me (I play dry). I am officially a convert!
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I was able to try the Getzen 3850 cornet with the Curry3DC mouthpiece. The 4B Wick clone that comes with the cornet is very nice, however, that 3DC allowed me to reach notes clearly that were difficult at best before. I am also a convert!
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| Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2012 7:19 am Post subject: Curry 3BBC |
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I currently plan a Vintage Curry and would be interested in trying the BBC. Does anyone have an opinion on how much of a change there would be in terms of endurance and upper register?
Thank you in advance for any responses that are sent. |
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| Quote: | I currently plan a Vintage Curry and would be interested in trying the BBC. Does anyone have an opinion on how much of a change there would be in terms of endurance and upper register?
Thank you in advance for any responses that are sent. |
I own both Curry VC and BBC models. I am not even playing the VC anymore (i.e. and the vintage cornet mouthpiece produces a gorgeous, buttery tone) simply because my range and endurance are so much improved with the 2BBC. It is a truly phenomenal piece, as every aspect of my playing - tone production, articulation, intonation, etc. - has improved.
I was playing through some etudes at the rear of the Arban book yesterday and the notes were flying out of the horn effortlessly. Though I have played professionally for many years, I consider myself an intermediate-level musician because my classical chops and sight reading aren't nearly as developed many of the players I listen to, but this mouthpiece definitely lets me perform to my full potential and then some!
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So, have you switched to a 2BBC? I noticed your original posts referred to buying a 3BBC.
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I originally purchased a 3BBC but after a few months noticed that, as I was getting and more confident with my playing, I wanted to try a roomier cup and went one size wider. It took a few months to acclimate to the larger volume of the #2 and that is what I have been playing exclusively.
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Cool. I've been playing my new 3BBC almost too much...my lips are getting a little sore...  I've tried it on all my cornets, even the Civil War rotary, and it seems to play equally well on all of them. Much better endurance than on the Wick, but still more tiring than a Bach 3C. But, of course, I don't get "the sound" on a 3C.
I have an OTB rehearsal tomorrow night, and I plan on testing the Curry out on the CW cornet with the ensemble. If it works well, I may use it when we perform for the ITG in May...
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