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Darrellcrews New Member
Joined: 26 May 2011 Posts: 7 Location: Las Vegas
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Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2011 8:20 am Post subject: FRAUD |
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Just a warning to you all.. I have sold a number of items on this sight and last night I saw something similar to a scam that is going on on Craigslist. I have a horn up for sale and the gentleman offered me a price for the trumpet, case and shipping. Easy clues, they write with very bad grammar and don't have a Paypal account. They will also not offer a number to speak to you in person. So, just a heads up. First time I've ever experienced it on this sight. |
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John Mohan Heavyweight Member
Joined: 13 Nov 2001 Posts: 9831 Location: Chicago, Illinois
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Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2011 9:27 am Post subject: |
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Was it the old "we will be graciously to pay you with a cashier's check, but it's already made for an amount that is thousands more than your item, but you are a kind and sincere gentleman so we will honstly be to trust you to send us the remaining balance back via trustworthy Western Union wire transfer" type scam? |
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Darrellcrews New Member
Joined: 26 May 2011 Posts: 7 Location: Las Vegas
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Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2011 9:50 am Post subject: |
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Yeah, pretty much. I've had them say, send a money gram to a certain address and they'll send a pick up agent come by and they reimburse me the money. As soon as I mention a phone call or just simply tell them to set up a Paypal account, I don't hear from them again.. |
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KingSilverSonic Heavyweight Member
Joined: 08 Feb 2006 Posts: 1542 Location: Dubuque, Iowa
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Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2011 3:45 pm Post subject: |
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I got a ton of these kinds of contacts when I was selling some horns a few years ago. I was "instructed" not to mail the horn, but that an agent would come to my house to pick up the item. Still trying to figure that one out. _________________ Richard
Lawler C7
Burbank Benge C
Calicchio 1s/2
King Symphony 20 DB and Silver Sonic Cornet
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chef8489 Heavyweight Member
Joined: 16 Aug 2011 Posts: 870 Location: Johnson City Tn
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Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2011 4:01 pm Post subject: |
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I cant stand the Nigerian scams. |
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JonathanM Heavyweight Member
Joined: 25 Aug 2007 Posts: 2021 Location: Charleston, SC
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Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2011 4:14 pm Post subject: |
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At present the company that employs me in sales is primarily internet based and in the top 200 sellers of the internet in gross dollars - and we get hit by the same scammers. So, it's not just the small, independent sellers that they target.
The first time I ran across it I informed my manager what was happening and she didn't believe me. I then told her they would not speak to us directly on the phone and when I pushed for a phone call they used a professional intermediary and typed for the intermediary to read aloud to me. Unbelievable. My manager thought I was a genius - and I'd heard about it first here at TH. This is the website that prepares you to impress your managers... You did know that, right? _________________ Jonathan Milam
Trumpets: 18043B, 18043*, 18043 Sterling Silver +, 18037 SterlingSilver+, Benge 4x, Olds: '34 Symphony, '47 Super, '52 Recording
Flugle: Strad 182
Puje: American Belle
Cornet: Olds Recording & Super |
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EBjazz Heavyweight Member
Joined: 14 Nov 2001 Posts: 2368 Location: SF Bay Area
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DWallace Veteran Member
Joined: 15 Mar 2008 Posts: 108
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Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2011 4:30 pm Post subject: |
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And I was thinking that the King of Nigeria left me the $10 Million. I'll settle for $1 million if he'll send it. _________________ Schilke S-32
Schilke M1
Rudy Muck Academy
York Super Custom Cornet
Yamaha YTR-6445HS C Trumpet
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LittleRusty Heavyweight Member
Joined: 11 Aug 2004 Posts: 12699 Location: Gardena, Ca
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Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2011 7:04 pm Post subject: |
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KingSilverSonic wrote: | I got a ton of these kinds of contacts when I was selling some horns a few years ago. I was "instructed" not to mail the horn, but that an agent would come to my house to pick up the item. Still trying to figure that one out. |
The money making part of the scam is the bogus cashier's check. You send them the extra and then find out later the check is fraudulent.
While I have never been scammed like this I suspect they either never pick up the horn or they hire a dupe to do it. So if the dupe gets caught they are still in the clear. I do know they do this, use dupes, with the fake credit cards. |
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LittleRusty Heavyweight Member
Joined: 11 Aug 2004 Posts: 12699 Location: Gardena, Ca
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Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2011 7:05 pm Post subject: |
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KingSilverSonic wrote: | I got a ton of these kinds of contacts when I was selling some horns a few years ago. I was "instructed" not to mail the horn, but that an agent would come to my house to pick up the item. Still trying to figure that one out. |
The money making part of the scam is the bogus cashier's check. You send them the extra and then find out later the check is fraudulent.
While I have never been scammed like this I suspect they either never pick up the horn or they hire a dupe to do it. So if the dupe gets caught they are still in the clear. I do know they do this, use dupes, with the fake credit cards. |
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Mdbri Veteran Member
Joined: 19 Jul 2010 Posts: 150 Location: Belgium
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Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2011 1:32 am Post subject: |
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Well, every time I come across this kind of scam, I have a little fun. Play dumb and ask them to explain things over and over again. Ask for outrageous things, and try to push them to tell you more Change your mind twice a day.
I loved bugging a scammer with all kinds of questions about options, leadpipes, finishes, the possibility of doing this and that, changing my mind a thousand times and then arranging to come pick it up at their "warehouse". Oh, the excuses he had to come up with! |
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