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dbacon
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Non-judgmental awareness. Instead of beating yourself up when you miss something, notice everything but do the alteration this way. My eye sees the eflat, but my ear hears an E natural. Just go back and alter the note. If you hear the notes going flat as you lip slur downwards (going flat to meet the next note. Same the other way, going sharp to meet up the next pitch), don't beat yourself up for not playing perfectly. Just be totally aware of the center of the pitch. Give yourself a chance to practice without getting on yourself. But practice improvments without guilt. Start seeing your playing the way it really is, not overly critically.
Make a list of all the stuff you do well. Really take the time to write up everything you can do well. Then make up a list of things you want to improve. So many times we work on stuff we can already do, and we stand still. To move ahead we need to find things we can't do, and work on them until we can. Therefore, practice the stuff on your second list. You'll get a kick out of playing something well that was a problem for you before!
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_PhilPicc
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Dave,
I could not agree more. Example, I learned to ski from a friend of mine who was a very accomplished skier. We were sitting in the lodge after skiing and someone from the group at the next table was saying that he skied all day and did not fall once. My friend looked over and said "Well then you didn't learn anything today did you?" His theory was if you don't try something new the you stay stagnant.
Excellent point Dave. Hope I can remember it until tomorrow so I can put it to good use.
Thanks for kick-starting my brain. The only way to improve is to work on our weaknesses and keep our foundation solid.
Regards
Phil
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Quadruple C
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Great topic! The list-thing is a good possibility to make a practice-plan. Will try it the next weeks.
Yeah, it's damn right that sometimes you have to fall to improve. Sometimes the sound and flexibilty suffers at first when you improve old, bad habits but after standing on your feet again you will have improved your playing and your knowledge. Just remembering my SC conversion.
wow.... the first heavyweight member. Congrats to you, Quad!!
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pfrank
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An important thing to do, Dave, I agree. Feel good about what you do well, and don't beat yourself up about your limitations. If you love your playing, and love music, you'll play more, and the weaker parts will improve.
Something I had wanted to say on the Following Changes topic: when you are soloing and make what you think is a mistake, repeat it, incorporate it so it sounds like it's what you intended to play. Jazz players have been saying that for along time. That principle is good for all sorts of musical and life situations...
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Mark Heuer
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| I used to beat myself up pretty badly after a performance that was not perfect. Now, I just do my best and enjoy myself. I'm more relaxed and the results are better. |
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SHS_Trumpet
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Great insight I gotta tell my section that!
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vivace
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I should have read this post before last night...
There was a talent show formy church, and they asked me to play something with about 2 days to prepare (plus i am sick right now). I chose the bluebells of scottland variations in the arban book (i had worked on it before w/ my teacher, but not at all lately). I played and screwid it up a lot.
I was mad afterwards, but i saw ppl and everyone was congratulating me on a good job. I knew that I screwed up, but they didn't care if they even knewk.
I am know looking at the good points... my intonation was good, and the theme was beautiful.
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On 2002-03-17 07:58, vivace wrote:
I should have read this post before last night...
There was a talent show formy church, and they asked me to play something with about 2 days to prepare (plus i am sick right now). I chose the bluebells of scottland variations in the arban book (i had worked on it before w/ my teacher, but not at all lately). I played and screwid it up a lot.
I was mad afterwards, but i saw ppl and everyone was congratulating me on a good job. I knew that I screwed up, but they didn't care if they even knewk.
I am know looking at the good points... my intonation was good, and the theme was beautiful.
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Great thoughts, and remember, living lick to lick will get you licked! In other words, if you judge yourself as a person by how you play on a given day you really short change yourself! What a fine person you are, and you happen to play the trumpet very well. That solo is not at all easy, nor is just playing the trumpet. Very few people can do what you can! Anyone can sing happy birthday. Give them a trumpet and ask them to play it and check out what happens. Some of the finest human beings I've ever known were not really good players. Some of the greatest players in the world are not the kind of people I'd like to be around all the time. And there are some great players that indeed are wonderful human beings. Allen Vizzutti comes to mind. He would be a fine person if he were a trumpet player or a conductor......may have gone too far with that, but you get my drift. If you have a bad day on trumpet, so what? Tomorrow's another day. You have a bad day as a person, someone could have been hurt and you may have problems getting over it. Don't live lick to lick, live person to person. It's more fun that way!
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