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PostPosted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 7:42 pm    Post subject: w Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 29, 2012 9:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 29, 2012 10:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 29, 2012 11:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 29, 2012 7:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

FREE POST!!!
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 29, 2012 10:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wait until Capt. chimes in.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 01, 2012 7:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 03, 2012 10:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 03, 2012 10:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

lol you guys are something. I rethought what I posted. Couldn't find the delete button.

Oh it wasn't controversial or juicy. Just something that TH could live without.

Now is that Morse code up above?



And sadly, I cannot read Morse. Does that mean, y'all do??
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 03, 2012 10:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's like learning to play or read music- just get at it and it'll come to you. Of course there are real shortcuts that make it easier than trumpet but I won't mention them here...
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 03, 2012 11:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Brings back memories of going through the USAF Ground Radio School at Keesler AFB in the late 50's. We had one guy who was a proficient radio morse operator for a railroad, but the railroad used American Morse Code and USAF used International. About drove the guy crazy trying to keep track of which he was using. We used to try to communicate with each other using Morse, until we found out the squadron CO was also proficient in morse code.

The country singer Johnny Cash was at one time a Morse Intercept Operator for the Air Force. I understand he could receive at a little better than 35 words a minute- that's equivalent to 175 letters.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 03, 2012 12:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've an antique railroad telegraph key, a newer one and a "bug", but no longer a Hallicrafter SR-7 transmitter or a Hammerlund that was put in "Four Aces", a Gypsy sail boat that went along with the sale of it. I once considered myself decently proficient with Morse and Semaphore attaining a Boy Scout merit badge, a Class II and HAM license, and Coast Guard Certification, but now it is all "Greek" ( a language I don't know) to me. ...---... or ................................................ . Modern technology has now made Samuel's so obsolete I couldn't tell you where it is still in use ... if anywhere. Bleep is about all the transmission one hears now. Haven't listened to my old Zenith Transoceanic or Normandie in many years. The Zenith doesn't receive FM although the Normandie does. They both receive short wave.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 03, 2012 12:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

murph66 wrote:
The country singer Johnny Cash was at one time a Morse Intercept Operator for the Air Force. I understand he could receive at a little better than 35 words a minute- that's equivalent to 175 letters.


Short 5 letter words as couldn't spell many locations ???
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 03, 2012 1:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="murph66]The country singer Johnny Cash was at one time a Morse Intercept Operator for the Air Force. I understand he could receive at a little better than 35 words a minute- that's equivalent to 175 letters.[/quote]

Back in high school I was an active ham radio operator. Novice class operators were restricted to code only. We had to hit 13 wpm to get a general class license. I barely made it and didn't use code much thereafter.

My step-mother joined the family when she was about 84. She was an extra class operator and participated in a code based net several times a week. She could send and receive at 28 wpm.

I find that I can't read that stuff above off the page. I sound it out, then I understand it. [edited by Moderators. Posting in Morse code doesn't make the UA go away.]

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 03, 2012 1:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Since Morse seems to be the subject:


Morse Taper sizes

Different Morse tapers have easily distinguished sizes.

Measure at the big end (ie, the open hole), in inches:

#0 is 0.356

#1 is 0.475

#2 is 0.700

#3 is 0.938

#4 is 1.231,

#5 is 1.748

#6 is 2.494

#7 is 3.270


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 03, 2012 2:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ed Lee wrote:
murph66 wrote:
The country singer Johnny Cash was at one time a Morse Intercept Operator for the Air Force. I understand he could receive at a little better than 35 words a minute- that's equivalent to 175 letters.


Short 5 letter words as couldn't spell many locations ???


5 letter groups were the basis for the codes the US was using at that time. Almost all the messages I sent and received were in this format and this was the format used for training . I was not in the code section so I never had to decipher the messages. There were people behind locked doors that did that. All I had to do was send and receive. About the only time I recall sending in the clear was on an air to ground net using voice.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 03, 2012 3:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Many military coded messages have always contained a lot of what we'd today refer to as "spam" or "padding", nonsense or statements from classical prose to throw off potential code breakers. During WW2, in the Pacific, where the distance that radio waves had to travel was about double the ETO, submarine radio ops would decipher a code strip, then have to separate the chaff, or padding. Perhaps the most famous message, later released publicly with padding intact was from Adm Nimitz in Pearl Harbor to Adm Halsey commanding Task Force 34 during the Battle of Leyte Gulf. Halsey had his superior surface force of battleships and heavy cruisers chase what was essentially a toothless remnant of the Japanese carrier forces making a decoy operation to draw him from protecting the landing areas at Leyte, leaving it virtually undefended against Adm Kurita's heavy surface fleet who had snuck in through the back door. While Kurita was literally pounding the defending ships, primarily DEs and Jeep carriers armed principally with armament intended for use against non-armored ground personnel and not heavily armored ships, several messages were sent from Pearl Harbor trying to get Halsey's ships to come back to the aid of the American on the beach head and the small supplying forces. The final message was "TURKEY TROTS TO WATER GG FROM CINCPAC ACTION COM THIRD FLEET INFO COMINCH CTF SEVENTY-SEVEN X WHERE IS RPT WHERE IS TASK FORCE THIRTY FOUR RR THE WORLD WONDERS." The beginning and ending phrases were really chaff, but it is said that Halsey assumed that "the world wonders" was really meant as part of the message and he finally broke off his attack and reversed course. The story of those DEs and other surface vessels that made literal suicide charges against the Japanese cruisers and BBs is a tremendous story in itself and should be remembered. In many cases, lives were saved because the heavy armament of the Japanese guns often went completely through the lightly armored American vessels without exploding. In one of the real wonders of WW2 PTO, Kurita broke off his attack, which would've been certain victory and the complete destruction of the US landing ops, and retired to the Empire waters.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 03, 2012 3:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There were also the much-feared Morse Vikings, in the past.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 03, 2012 3:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

etc-etc wrote:
There were also the much-feared Morse Vikings, in the past.
As opposed to the MN versions. (Where's Finn?)
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 03, 2012 3:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Vikings plundered the coast of France, as the French insisted on using their own French shanks on flugelhorn mouthpieces. Morse shanks, large and small, won the battle.
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