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My First Kanstul (Chicago 1001)!


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DavesTrumpet
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 6:04 pm    Post subject: My First Kanstul (Chicago 1001)! Reply with quote

I rarely ever buy horns anymore (trust me I have plenty. I stopped counting ten years ago when the count got up to 26!) but I've had a Benge MLP on my 'bucket list' of horns to own forever. I got a chance to give a Kanstul Chicago 1001 a good thorough try back in 2003 when the ITG convention was in Ft. Worth. I was impressed with it. And any time my friend Bill comes over from Dallas with his old MLP, I'm always grabbing it from him to play on it.

Well, finally just the right deal came along. I've looked forever for a decent lacquered Benge or Kanstul for ages! Most seem to be silver plate. But this horn was just the ticket! So cool!

Not only am I so extremely happy with the horn, but also the wonderful seller who is part of our community here. Thank you, Fred (HoosierConn)!

Anyway, just had to share this.

Oh, here's a pic I just snapped:


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 6:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rare in lacquer. They are wonderful trumpets.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 6:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

shofarguy wrote:
Rare in lacquer. They are wonderful trumpets.


Glad to finally own a Kanstul-made horn. Quality!
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 6:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Whoot! Happy day, Dave.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 7:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm feeling a little jealous
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 7:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had a mature student, back when I gave lessons, with a Benge 2X MLP. What a great horn. He kept buying Besson Mehas from the '50s and having Byron Autry overhaul them... and they were nice... but they weren't any better, in my opinion, than that 2X+.

So a 2X MLP has been on my bucket list for a while. I was really disappointed to read, some time ago, that the only 2X bell mandrel Kanstul has is too fragile to use, because a Kanstul Chicago 1001 with a 2X bell would be the modern equivalent.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 8:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Only saw a 2X+ once. 2X's, rarely.

If one had an MLP body and a 2X bell, it would be easy to make the bell a slightly larger bore.

Don't worry, I'm not signing on to the good ship "Kirk."
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2012 5:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've owned several 2X horns and at least one 2X+, all L.A. horns. A very good commercial sounding horn in the right hands. I had a naturally bright sound and with the 2X series horns my sound had a real edge to it. I imagine if I had switched from my Reeves 42M m.p. piece to a deeper cup I could have tamed the beast a little bit. All in all very good horns [after valve alignments] and would fit big band playing or even Salsa work very well.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 16, 2012 12:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Kanstul Chicago 1001 is a hell of horn, period. For me is the best trumpet i've ever played: a great "all-around" horn, a great lead horn, a great "solo" horn. In my opinion much better than the original Benge (i've played a few of the vintage ones).
Kanstul really works his magic into this particualr model.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 16, 2012 5:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Congratulations. It's a great looking horn in lacquer.

I have a Kanstul flugel, but none of their trumpet or other brass products (yet).
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 16, 2012 6:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

RandyTX wrote:
Congratulations. It's a great looking horn in lacquer.

I have a Kanstul flugel, but none of their trumpet or other brass products (yet).


Thanks! Yeah, I'm loving it! I like it better than my friend's LA MLP! Very solid response, up and down, and the intonation is better! (What more could you ask for!?)
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 17, 2012 3:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pretty horn. One of Kanstul's greats. I have a Kanstul Chicago and use it for rock band work. Great edge, open, and cuts through.

Of course I also own the 991, 1500, 1502, 1503, and 1537. And the best one is whichever I pick up.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 17, 2012 5:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

stevericks wrote:
Pretty horn. One of Kanstul's greats. I have a Kanstul Chicago and use it for rock band work. Great edge, open, and cuts through.

Of course I also own the 991, 1500, 1502, 1503, and 1537. And the best one is whichever I pick up.
Steve


Yeah, I'm lovin' it, Steve. Great horn, nice sound, superb intonation. I think that's the thing that surprised me the most is how good the intonation is.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 17, 2012 6:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dave, is there any reason why you wanted lacquer as opposed to silver? After all, lacquer Benges (esp LA) seem to be pretty rare.

Or are you just a lacquer person in general?

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 17, 2012 6:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cjl wrote:
Dave, is there any reason why you wanted lacquer as opposed to silver? After all, lacquer Benges (esp LA) seem to be pretty rare.

Or are you just a lacquer person in general?

-- Joe


Hi Joe,

I just don't care much for silver plated horns (they don't stay clean long enough in my hands, tarnish, etc..). Though I own quite a few silver plated horns, I prefer either gold plating or lacquer.

It's funny though about lacquered Benges. I agree, silver seems the most popular. But there are lacquered ones out there. Timofei Dokshizer always played a lacquered (LA) Benge and a friend of mine (older, retired USAF trumpeter) has three Burbank Benges, all lacquered. (He's got a killer Benge C trumpet. One of the best playing C's I've played!!!)

There's currently a lacquered CH1001, like mine, on ebay. Price is way too high for the amount of damage it has.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 19, 2012 4:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Congrats!
It's an awesome horn. Just bought mine a couple of months ago, and am loving it!
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 19, 2012 4:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have such a soft spot for Benges.

My trumpet teacher, Walt Laursen, played a 3X, had C and D.

I started on a 5X. Owned a 3X+.

Owned a Chicago Bb, and probably what was the 1st Chicago C.

It's like the love of "beginnings."
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 20, 2012 5:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Leather_Lips wrote:
Congrats!
It's an awesome horn. Just bought mine a couple of months ago, and am loving it!


Thanks! Yes, I totally agree!
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 20, 2012 8:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

DavesTrumpet wrote:
stevericks wrote:
Pretty horn. One of Kanstul's greats. I have a Kanstul Chicago and use it for rock band work. Great edge, open, and cuts through.

Of course I also own the 991, 1500, 1502, 1503, and 1537. And the best one is whichever I pick up.
Steve


Yeah, I'm lovin' it, Steve. Great horn, nice sound, superb intonation. I think that's the thing that surprised me the most is how good the intonation is.

What I like about the horn is its flexibility. I play in a wide range of context (big band lead, soft stuff in church, etc.) and it's much easier to get the sound I want with the Chicago MLP and my trusty Bach 5C mouthpiece. When I play lead, I can cut through without killing myself. When I've done quiet stuff in church, I've been asked if I was using a flugel!
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 20, 2012 8:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

swthiel wrote:

What I like about the horn is its flexibility. I play in a wide range of context (big band lead, soft stuff in church, etc.)and it's much easier to get the sound I want with the Chicago MLP and my trusty Bach 5C mouthpiece. When I play lead, I can cut through without killing myself. When I've done quiet stuff in church, I've been asked if I was using a flugel!


My first notes on it, not warmed up (excuses, excuses) (just after playing the Connstellation, you can hear that I didn't lift my fingers up high enough on the first notes. LOL! DUH! Darned longer valve stroke!). I think this clip illustrates your point though:

http://youtu.be/sFSrzQJvZKw
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