What size rim to you usually play on?

[stanton]

Knowing that style/genre difference will contribute to mouthpiece size, I would still like to know approximate what size rim folks play on (as your MAIN mouthpiece). I recognize that rim shape comes into play and Bach "sizes" are somewhat compromised by inconsistency. Just take youre best guess.

If you have a rim that says 1.5, but you know it's closer to the 3 or the 5, don't use the number on the mouthpiece, but the size you think it really is. [Wishing I could use GR numbers]

Obviously the results will be meaningless, but then again we may be surprised by the results as well.

Thanks for participating!
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Schilke B1, Bach 37, 1969 Getzen Severinsen Eterna
Bach C 229 w Charlie Melk custom work
Getzen Eterna Cornet, Benge #5 Fluegel
Kanstul Besson Prototype A/Bb Pic
Crappy old Yamaha 3valve Eb
Stanton Kramer "Signature" Mouthpiece

[afp]

[Pete]

I play on a mouthpiece that has a diameter of .640, and sometimes a bit wider, around .645. Some think that this is small others think that it is a bit too wide. It is definitely a matter of what works for you.

I know some players that play everything on a Bach 3C and others play everything on a Warburton 6M.

The best rule to go by: play the smallest/shallowest mouthpiece that you can play for upper register work, and play the biggest/deepest mouthpiece you can play for legit work. For some the smallest is a 3C, and for some the biggest is a Schilke 13B. It is exclusive to the individual player. There is no right answer.

Pete

[dennett]

I think this may be as informative as polling people on their shoe size.

[RandyTX]

With a sufficiently large sample size, you'll get a standard bell curve. Hugely enlightening.

[VetPsychWars]

[hien peter]

Jens Lindeman proclaims that Size 3 - 7 ist the way to go.
Maurice André played between 3 and 7.
There are some Internetcharts what setups famous trumpet players use,
nearly all go from 3 - 7.
I love herb Alpert, he plays a 17,22 mm mouthpiece (what I read ?)

In my experience big sizes with deep cups and a huge backbore gives you a big symphonic sound.
Other way round, beginners do more easily with larger diameters, because they allow mistakes and gives you always a result; especially with deeper cups they allow them to protrude the lips into the cup.
Smaller diameters force you to use a very stable and focused embouchure, especially true if it is a flat MP.

I use bigger mouthpieces if I need a big stable sound.
I use smaller flater MPs if I need endurance in high registers.
And preferably I exercise with small and flat MPs to get a stable focused embouchure, mostly something like Giardinelli 7S and Bach 7D or Bach 6C. In the "bierzelt - oktoberfest" I use Monette-6 (a broad and loud sound). On the flugel something like a Bach 3 size.
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Strad H37 & G 7s
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Weimann C, Strad C
Conn V1 FH & MB6

[hien peter]

sorry 2 times
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playing trumpet is like meditation

Strad H37 & G 7s
martin committee 1946
Weimann C, Strad C
Conn V1 FH & MB6

[jf_trumpet]

[Vin DiBona]

Maurice Andre' used a 1 1/2C for most of his life.
From OJ Utnes' website.

Maurice André Aubertin C trumpet
Selmer K modified Bb
Selmer Radial Bb
Selmer piccolo
On Bb, C, D, Eb trumpet: Bach 1-1/2 C,
Bb Piccolo: Bach 7 DW
also (around 1972): Rudy Muck 7E
A custom Bach 7D (a particular rim, larger, rounded on the top)

Herb Alpert used mouthpieces in the Bach 7 and 8 sizes.

R. Tomasek

[maynard-46]

[Jon Arnold]

I played on a 3C for most of my career and have been playing on .665 inner diameter mouthpieces for the past 4 years. I like a more rounded rim and a soft bite.

[stanton]

I'm wondering how many of the respondants answered with a different "size" than is stamped on the side of the mouthpiece? I felt like I had to, and put down what I thought was the best practical answer.

In my case I currently play a Kanstul copy of a MV 1.5C but this mouthpiece FEELS noticeably smaller than the "standard" Elkhart 1.5C and feels smaller in fact, than any of my 3C's. Its not really a 1.5 (as in the modern versions), but not a 3 because of the shape and not a 5 either. I just guessed. Did anyone else have this problem?

The Schilke Symphonic M3's are listed as a "slightly smaller" 3C. From what I can feel it is closer to a 5 rim than a 3 rim, if only because of the rim shape. A few years ago I was playing on a GR66 rim, only to be surpised that when I got a 66Q rim, it felt considerably larger, which I'm sure is rim shape. The same thing with the Bach 1 1/4C.

In addition to just seeing how the rim sizes are distributed among a sample of trumpet geeks...err.. enthusiasts, I am also curious as to how rim shape may make you select a different "size" and if the psychology of using a "larger size" comes into play?

Inquiring minds want to know.
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Schilke B1, Bach 37, 1969 Getzen Severinsen Eterna
Bach C 229 w Charlie Melk custom work
Getzen Eterna Cornet, Benge #5 Fluegel
Kanstul Besson Prototype A/Bb Pic
Crappy old Yamaha 3valve Eb
Stanton Kramer "Signature" Mouthpiece

[laurent]

I play on a Monette B2 S3, which is a pretty large mouthpiece. But I play it for its sound, openess, response, etc., not for its size.
If this piece were smaller while keeping the same sound and playing characteristics, I very likely would love it as much!
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Bb Trumpets: Courtois Évolution IV, Stomvi Forte,
Buescher T-120, HT3.
Mpcs: Monette B2s3, Kanstul M-B2.
Flugel: H.Bagué (Yam 631 clone in red brass).
Mpcs: Curry FL & FLD.

[chuck in ny]

[1400MZA]

Bach 1C for piston trumpet
Bach 1A with custom backbore for rotary trumpet
Bach 1 1/4 for Eb/D

1 1/2 for Piccolo trumpet

[Jon Arnold]

[stanton]

[chapahi]

Why does the poll stop at "7 or smaller"? Bach 7 is just the mid point.
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Conn, Olds, Martin, etc. a bunch of mouthpieces too...you name it I got it.

[cheiden]