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lyndon153
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 Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 1:06 pm Post subject: reminder - clean those valves |
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Newcomers - I can't believe that I forgot this over time, but re-learned a good lesson recently. I was a comeback play a few years ago, and generally have my horns cleaned professionally once a year. A couldn't arrange it prior to my community band's spring concert, but found my 1st valve sticking sometimes on my trumpet, and my cornet was sluggish. So the morning of the concert I when and cleaned the valves and re-lubricated them. Boy - what a difference. Just a simple wiping off of the valves and running a rag thru the valve chamber made all the difference.
Now, I knew I should do this once in a while, but never seemed to have the time before rehearsals. I guess I'll be doing this more often.
Good luck!
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+1!
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mbradd
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Wait.... hold on..... you mean, if we clean and maintain our instruments.... they'll play trouble free?!  I know, some times the obvious needs to be restated. I knew how to take care of my Strad.... doesn't mean I did! And guess what, I ended up having trouble with it. Will not make that same mistake with my current axe.
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etc-etc
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| Better than a rag is a chamois leather. You do not have to run the cloth through the casing every time - piston collects half of the metal dust, thus a clean piston translates to a clean casing over many cleanings. |
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Dan O'Donnell
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I just recently paid the price for not cleaning and oiling my valves enough and properly.
My 1st valve was sticking very much on my C Trumpet while I was playing at my church.
I tried to mask the real issue by oiling it after it was too late...a build-up of crud was on the valves and even oil didn't help.
I then took my horn to my Brass Tech and had him Ultra-Sonic clean the valves.
They now work great and I am now in the habit of oiling them (with my favorite valve oil Ultra Pure) AFTER I play which is something I was taught that makes a huge difference regarding the protection against build-up etc. when the horn is stored for several days. 
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KingSilverSonic
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I carry tissue in all of my cases and when I oil my valves I now automatically wipe the pistons before oiling. When cleaning the horn I run a snake through the valve casings and rinse with hot water.
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mbradd
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| KingSilverSonic wrote: | | I carry tissue in all of my cases and when I oil my valves I now automatically wipe the pistons before oiling. When cleaning the horn I run a snake through the valve casings and rinse with hot water. |
Do you ever find that the tissue leaves fuzz on your valves? I carry two microfiber cloths in my case for just this reason. One for cleaning the valves (and slides) and one for taking off the oil my hands leave. Throw 'em in the wash once a week and I'm good to go!
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KingSilverSonic
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| mbradd wrote: | | KingSilverSonic wrote: | | I carry tissue in all of my cases and when I oil my valves I now automatically wipe the pistons before oiling. When cleaning the horn I run a snake through the valve casings and rinse with hot water. |
Do you ever find that the tissue leaves fuzz on your valves? I carry two microfiber cloths in my case for just this reason. One for cleaning the valves (and slides) and one for taking off the oil my hands leave. Throw 'em in the wash once a week and I'm good to go! |
No, I have not seen that, but I do keep an eye out for small snags. You're probably much better set up than I am with the microfiber cloths so maybe that is the way to go.
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uglylips
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| etc-etc wrote: | | Better than a rag is a chamois leather. You do not have to run the cloth through the casing every time - piston collects half of the metal dust, thus a clean piston translates to a clean casing over many cleanings. |
Some of the chamois I've used leaves micro pieces of itself in the horn. Could this be from the quality or type of chamois? What type do you use and where do you buy it? |
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Blue Trane
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| I've been using satin handkerchiefs lately but have had good results in the past with with ripped up old but good quality pillow cases. |
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| uglylips wrote: | | etc-etc wrote: | | Better than a rag is a chamois leather. You do not have to run the cloth through the casing every time - piston collects half of the metal dust, thus a clean piston translates to a clean casing over many cleanings. |
Some of the chamois I've used leaves micro pieces of itself in the horn. Could this be from the quality or type of chamois? What type do you use and where do you buy it? |
I only use it on the pistons as the cloth is too big for the casings. The chamois that I use is regular automotive type (sold in big auto stores), it gets soft when wetted. For casings, I use new white rolled paper towels - any metal dust really stands out if collected on these. Probably, wetting the smaller piece of chamois is the way to go for the casings (will make the chamois smooth), however, I have seen a repair tech use it on pistons and casings without wetting. |
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dlmusic
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Just as another suggestion. You can use Naphtha on whatever cloth you choose to help remove oil and crud build up on your casings/pistons. It can be picked up at any local hardware store.
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