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trumpetp1 Veteran Member

Joined: 04 Nov 2007 Posts: 104 Location: Pennsylvania
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Posted: Fri May 25, 2012 9:19 am Post subject: Getzen Eterna piccolo mouthpieces? |
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While I realize that mouthpiece choices are, for the most part, personal decisions, I was wondering if anyone has a specific mouthpiece that works just splendidly on the Getzen Eterna piccolo trumpet (with the stock Getzen pipes, as my picc is pre-Blackburn).
Any serious suggestions would be appreciated.
(And, yes, I realize I should acquire some non-stock leadpipes. But, whilst I'm able to swing the price of a mouthpiece or two - at this time - I can't afford a Blackburn pipe or two. Maybe in the future.)
Thank you in advance to all who respond. _________________ trumpetp1 |
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finntpt New Member
Joined: 29 Apr 2010 Posts: 9 Location: St. Helens, OR
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Posted: Fri May 25, 2012 9:50 am Post subject: |
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| I have played the Getzen picc for years in a quintet (amateur not pro). Others in the group noticed and commented on two changes I made. First, they noticed when I switched to a Blackburn pipe. Second they noticed when I switched to a GR mouthpiece ( in my case a 66 P-M). The GR has been the best piece for me, ymmv. |
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crose Regular Member
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Posted: Fri May 25, 2012 9:52 am Post subject: |
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Schilke 13B
A little larger than some folks use but works for me on smaller (short model) piccs |
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trumpetp1 Veteran Member

Joined: 04 Nov 2007 Posts: 104 Location: Pennsylvania
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Posted: Fri May 25, 2012 11:07 am Post subject: Getzen Eterna piccolo mouthpiece |
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I'm currently playing on the standard issue Bach 7C. And, while my range isn't too bad (I'm comfortable to about a high G or so), it's obvious that it's not an ideal mouthpiece. Obviously.
So, any and all serious suggestions and/or ideas are appreciated! _________________ trumpetp1 |
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sinfonian316 Veteran Member
Joined: 08 Mar 2005 Posts: 161 Location: Chattanooga, TN
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Posted: Fri May 25, 2012 11:39 am Post subject: |
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I would try either a Bach 7D or a 7E. Since you are playing 7C right now, it wouldn't be hard switching to either mouthpiece. _________________ Bb: Bach 37
C: Bach 229/25H
Eb: Bach 189 EL
Picc: Schilke P5-4BG
Phi Mu Alpha Sinfonia/Beta Alpha |
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trumpetp1 Veteran Member

Joined: 04 Nov 2007 Posts: 104 Location: Pennsylvania
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Posted: Wed May 30, 2012 7:47 am Post subject: Getzen Enterna piccolo mouthpiece |
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sinfonian316, I had been thinking about either of those two mouthpieces (Bach 7D or 7E).
I'm only playing on the 7C right now, as that's what the horn came with. ?? When I was studying piccolo at Penn State, I used a Bach 9C and that seemed to work okay. I suppose I should add that I typically plan on Bach 1.5Cs and a Schilke 14A4 for higher playing (like in PSU's Blue Band).
Unfortunately, I live in an area that's musically-lacking, in terms, of music stores to try mouthpieces at, so I'm trying to narrow down my options before ordering...because the sole music store doesn't carry anything other than Bach & Accent 7C, 5C, and 1.5C. Argh!
Please, do keep the suggestions coming. They are greatly appreciated!! _________________ trumpetp1 |
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Irving Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Wed May 30, 2012 7:59 am Post subject: |
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| Bach 7E, 117 BBore is the mouthpiece that works the best by far on the Getzen piccolo for this player. Mine is over 30 years old, and one of my teachers rounded off the rim with a potato peeler, so it is comfortable as well. |
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cheiden Heavyweight Member
Joined: 28 Sep 2004 Posts: 3630 Location: Orange County, CA
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Posted: Wed May 30, 2012 8:00 am Post subject: |
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Do you not like your 14A4? The 14A4X is popular and has a picc-centric backbore as does the 11AX if you think smaller would work for you. I'm a 3C-ish player and do better downsizing to a Yamaha 11 size rim for picc. _________________ "I'm an engineer, which means I think I know a whole bunch of stuff I really don't."
Charles J Heiden/So Cal
Bach Strad 180ML43*/43 Bb
Yamaha 731 Flugel
Kanstul 920 Picc
Conn 80A Cornet
Bach 3C rim/Bach 1-1/2C underpart |
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trumpetp1 Veteran Member

Joined: 04 Nov 2007 Posts: 104 Location: Pennsylvania
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Posted: Wed May 30, 2012 8:21 am Post subject: Getzen Eterna piccolo mouthpiece |
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Irving: Wow, a potato peeler?! Interesting, and it certainly seems to have worked out well, as you're still using it 30 years later. Interesting.
cheiden: I do like the Schilke 14A4. It's too bad that the one that I own is trumpet shank, whilst my piccolo leadpipe is cornet shank. [Again, argh!] Do you have any experience with using a schilke 14A4X on a Getzen Eterna? I'm curious as I really do like my 14A4 quite abit, and would be interested in the 14A4X for that reason alone. Hmmm... _________________ trumpetp1 |
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Richard A Veteran Member

Joined: 11 May 2005 Posts: 481 Location: Rhode Island, USA
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Posted: Wed May 30, 2012 8:37 am Post subject: Piccolo Mouthpiece |
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I've been happy with a Schilke 11AX- _________________ Richard Ashmore |
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cheiden Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Wed May 30, 2012 8:56 am Post subject: Re: Getzen Eterna piccolo mouthpiece |
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| trumpetp1 wrote: | Irving: Wow, a potato peeler?! Interesting, and it certainly seems to have worked out well, as you're still using it 30 years later. Interesting.
cheiden: I do like the Schilke 14A4. It's too bad that the one that I own is trumpet shank, whilst my piccolo leadpipe is cornet shank. [Again, argh!] Do you have any experience with using a schilke 14A4X on a Getzen Eterna? I'm curious as I really do like my 14A4 quite abit, and would be interested in the 14A4X for that reason alone. Hmmm... |
I'm perplexed, I'd have sworn that the Getzen Eternas I've seen all had trumpet shank pipes(http://www.getzen.com/trumpet/specialty/940.shtml). Also, if you do wind up going with a Blackburn pipe they are only available in trumpet shank versions (so says the website http://www.blackburntrumpets.com/products.html#piccleadpipes).
FWIW I believe that Schilke makes both the 14A4X and the 11AX in both trumpet and cornet shank, at least they do if I'm reading it right at MouthpieceExpress.com.
My picc plays best with cornet shank pieces and I'm not fond enough of my current choice to recommend it. _________________ "I'm an engineer, which means I think I know a whole bunch of stuff I really don't."
Charles J Heiden/So Cal
Bach Strad 180ML43*/43 Bb
Yamaha 731 Flugel
Kanstul 920 Picc
Conn 80A Cornet
Bach 3C rim/Bach 1-1/2C underpart |
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trumpetp1 Veteran Member

Joined: 04 Nov 2007 Posts: 104 Location: Pennsylvania
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Posted: Wed May 30, 2012 10:13 am Post subject: Getzen Eterna piccolo mouthpiece |
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cheiden: I bought my picc just a bit before Getzen started selling their horns with Blackburn [trumpet-shank] leadpipes, so my horn has the older cornet-shank leadpipes. Darn!!  _________________ trumpetp1 |
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Richard A Veteran Member

Joined: 11 May 2005 Posts: 481 Location: Rhode Island, USA
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Posted: Wed May 30, 2012 10:48 am Post subject: Re: Getzen Eterna piccolo mouthpiece |
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| cheiden wrote: |
I'm perplexed, I'd have sworn that the Getzen Eternas I've seen all had trumpet shank pipes |
Mine came with cornet shank pipes. About a month after I bought it they started shipping with Blackburn pipes  _________________ Richard Ashmore |
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trumpetp1 Veteran Member

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Posted: Wed May 30, 2012 10:50 am Post subject: |
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Richard A, that's horrible luck. At least my purchase was maybe two years before they started shipping with Blackburn pipes. _________________ trumpetp1 |
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nieuwguyski Heavyweight Member

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Posted: Wed May 30, 2012 1:14 pm Post subject: |
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My Eterna picc is quite a bit older (circa 1980), and it came with factory trumpet-receiver leadpipes. I guess they redesigned at some point. _________________ J. Notso Nieuwguyski |
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cheiden Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Wed May 30, 2012 1:35 pm Post subject: |
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All the short model Eternas I've seen were trumpet shank. I read that Getzen also produce a long bell Schilke clone (not an Eterna) which could have been a candidate for cornet shank (like the Schilke) but according to the current Getzen website it's also trumpet shank.
Now that I think about it, all the short bell piccs I've noticed are trumpet shank (Selmer, Yamaha 6810/6820, Getzen Eterna (so I thought)). Many of the long bells I've see are cornet shank. _________________ "I'm an engineer, which means I think I know a whole bunch of stuff I really don't."
Charles J Heiden/So Cal
Bach Strad 180ML43*/43 Bb
Yamaha 731 Flugel
Kanstul 920 Picc
Conn 80A Cornet
Bach 3C rim/Bach 1-1/2C underpart |
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TrumpetMD Heavyweight Member

Joined: 22 Oct 2008 Posts: 761 Location: Maryland
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Posted: Wed May 30, 2012 5:08 pm Post subject: |
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| trumpetp1 wrote: | | t's too bad that the one that I own is trumpet shank, whilst my piccolo leadpipe is cornet shank. |
You could get the stock trumpet shank leadpipes from any Getzen dealer. They're only about $20 each (or maybe $29?). Something to consider.
I play a Getzen Eterna piccolo with a Bach 3C or 3D mouthpiece. I don't play it enough to justify the cost of Blackburn leadpipes.
However, I recently purchased the Getzen trumpet shank leadpipes. Maybe it's all in my head, but I find the trumpet shank leadpipes to be more in tune.
Mike _________________ Bach Strad 180-43* Bb (1974), Strad 239 CML (1980)
Olds Ambassador (1957)
Carol CPT-300LR Pocket Trumpet
Getzen 896 Flugelhorn (1974), 940 Piccolo Trumpet, M2003ES Field Trumpet, Deluxe Bass Trumpet
Bach 3C, 3D, 3CFL mouthpieces |
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gringoloco Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Wed May 30, 2012 8:31 pm Post subject: |
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Stork 7P.
Get one of the Blackburn pipes (P1 or P2). Getzen Eterna + Blackburn pipe + Stork mouthpiece should take care of all your church gigs.
I have a Schilke P7-4 and still bring that Getzen to church gigs.
Great set up!
Rob |
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trumpetp1 Veteran Member

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Posted: Thu May 31, 2012 12:30 pm Post subject: Getzen Eterna piccolo mouthpiece |
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I think I bought my picc around 2007ish. It came standard with cornet-shank pipes.
TrumpetMD/Mike: that's really interesting about the stock trumpet-shank pipes. That will definitely be something that I'd be interested in checking into further. [If I were to acquire some stock Getzen trumpet-shank pipes, then my mouthpiece quest would be quite a bit easier, as I already have some of the mouthpieces discussed previously...in trumpet shank.] do you happen to have the names of any Getzen dealers in the eastern US??
Thank you, again, to all who have posted. Please, do keep the suggestions (and explanations) coming. _________________ trumpetp1 |
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TrumpetMD Heavyweight Member

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Posted: Thu May 31, 2012 2:35 pm Post subject: Re: Getzen Eterna piccolo mouthpiece |
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| trumpetp1 wrote: | | TrumpetMD/Mike: that's really interesting about the stock trumpet-shank pipes. That will definitely be something that I'd be interested in checking into further. [If I were to acquire some stock Getzen trumpet-shank pipes, then my mouthpiece quest would be quite a bit easier, as I already have some of the mouthpieces discussed previously...in trumpet shank.] do you happen to have the names of any Getzen dealers in the eastern US?? |
Yes. That was my motivation. I got the trumpet shank leadpipes to simplify my piccolo trumpet mouthpiece safari.
I ordered mine through Baltimore Brass. Dillon's in NJ could also do it, if you're close to them. But I suspect that most music stores in your area that sell or repair trumpets are also Getzen dealers.
Mike _________________ Bach Strad 180-43* Bb (1974), Strad 239 CML (1980)
Olds Ambassador (1957)
Carol CPT-300LR Pocket Trumpet
Getzen 896 Flugelhorn (1974), 940 Piccolo Trumpet, M2003ES Field Trumpet, Deluxe Bass Trumpet
Bach 3C, 3D, 3CFL mouthpieces |
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