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Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2012 4:35 pm Post subject:
Thank you so much for starting this thread. So much gorgeous music _________________ Tim Newitt. Bach Strad 229G C, Holton T-102S Bb, Ganter Rotary G-7a C, Yamaha 4 valve pic A/Bb, L.A. Pocket Bb
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Posted: Mon May 07, 2012 1:02 am Post subject:
Ulli,
Listening to Wunderlich as I type. TY so much.
And the Cesaria . . . so lovely.
But I think Fritz wins the day for me from your offerings.
Now this clip has no voices. But the guys I know, for when I was young Mom had them and William Primrose playing the Beethoven Trio in Eb (hope I got that right.) Loved those RCA albums.
But since I've listened to it about 4 times in a row, & I'm arrested each time by it's beauty, I'll post it for y'all. We stand on the shoulders of giants.
If you use the closed captions option, you can get the english translation of the lyrics.
The climactic moment at 2:30ish. Wow. Good old Sibelius!
The way she shapes the piece as a whole, and especially the intensity at 2:37 is great musicianship. You can learn a lot about phrasing and shaping from her!
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Posted: Mon May 07, 2012 3:43 pm Post subject:
This is such a great topic. We can learn so much not just from great singers but all the other instruments. I've used them for years to inform my playing. _________________ Bob Grier
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Hi,
J du Pre died so early, in October though, not September. Have all the recordings with her and Barenboim. It is inspired music. Love it so much.
Have a nice day, everybody
ulli _________________ Baumann rotary trumpet and flugel
OMG! I was going to search youtube, trying to remember whatever it was I found over Christmas. This gal's voice is the closest I've ever heard anyone come to the blessing it was, growing up with my Sister ...
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Posted: Mon May 07, 2012 10:41 pm Post subject:
richardwy wrote:
Peter, still listening to Ruth Swenson . . . a lark. Now that's odd. We used to hear that word used to describe singers, but never trumpeters. Perhaps we have never been nor have meant to be larks. Just shaking my head listening to her shimmering tone.
I cannot disagree strongly enough! Perhaps her "larkness" is in the way she commands so much power, through quietness, in the extreme of her upper range? Sing through your trumpet like that ... if a picture paints 1000 words, one of her notes teaches us a million. And she's got quite a few notes there ...
Just bookmark the thread. Isn't this the sort of thing we come to TH for? Thanks Richard, for finally allowing TH to "get to the point"
Joined: 13 Feb 2006 Posts: 3874 Location: Casper, WY - The Gotham of the Prarie
Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 9:15 am Post subject:
Was listening to Bennett duets on Youtube.
Recollecting this old thread, the phrasing on this tune stuns me. So I thought I'd tag it onto the old thread. And I don't know the gal who from the Youtube comments is obviously well known and loved.
I can't pull this sort of stuff off on the horn naturally. I'm in too much a darned hurry.
As I recall without looking, on the 1st page a TH'er pointed to Frankie for his phrasing. When it's done right, our jaws sorta drop.
This one did it for me. Aural concept . . . tone, timbre, phrasing . . . great stuff:
Revisting, some of Youtube clips have been pulled. Someone find some Frank because a TH'er listed him on the first page but something happened somewhere. _________________ Richard Oliver
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thanks for putting this up it is exactly on topic. i'm still trying to figure out why trumpet is so intimately connected to voice
What you've hit on is common though the brass family. The trumpet/trombone etc and the human voice are the only two instruments that require part of the human body to work. We're not manipulating a foreign object to produce the waves, and such our "reeds" are integral to ourselves, they have millions of nerves in them feeding back resonance, and every player is different, like vocalists. _________________ GR 67C**
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Joined: 13 Feb 2006 Posts: 3874 Location: Casper, WY - The Gotham of the Prarie
Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 10:46 am Post subject:
razeontherock wrote:
richardwy wrote:
Peter, still listening to Ruth Swenson . . . a lark. Now that's odd. We used to hear that word used to describe singers, but never trumpeters. Perhaps we have never been nor have meant to be larks. Just shaking my head listening to her shimmering tone.
I cannot disagree strongly enough! Perhaps her "larkness" is in the way she commands so much power, through quietness, in the extreme of her upper range? Sing through your trumpet like that ... if a picture paints 1000 words, one of her notes teaches us a million. And she's got quite a few notes there ...
Just bookmark the thread. Isn't this the sort of thing we come to TH for? Thanks Richard, for finally allowing TH to "get to the point"
Indeed and sorry I did not get back to you when you posted. But if all our "disagreements" on TH were put as yours, then what a happy lot we would be. VERY well stated!! _________________ Richard Oliver
Bach AB190
Schilke B1
Bach C180L 239 25H
Bach 3's: 3, B, & C
Getzen Capri Cornet
Curry 3BBC
Wick 4
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