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Musical Rim Protector
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 05, 2012 12:22 pm    Post subject: Protect the rim of your bell Reply with quote

Protect your investment with a…Musical Rim Protector
NEW in 2012, the latest in instrument protection. A custom molded silicone material for all bell and rimmed musical instruments. To see more pictures go on www.barnfieldinc.com.



•Should maintain the finish and shape of the bell area, while also maintaining sound quality.




•Helps reduce scuffs & dings to almost any musical instrument.




•Especially useful during marching season.


The musical rim protector is designed to help reduce impact damage and abrasions on rimmed instruments. The molded silicone is sized to fit each instrument from wind to percussion by slipping over the rim of each instrument. The products are molded to fit standard instruments and have enough elongation to fit most instruments from most manufactures.

The translucent product creates a protective rim-barrier with minimal visual distraction. We are producing more colored rim protectors if its fashion you seek.
The rim protector should not affect the tonal quality of the emitted sound.

Three Band Directors have tried this out and could not tell the difference when the Trumpet was played. The silicone was engineered to have an air gap around the bead, so it still resonates.

PROUDLY MADE IN THE U.S.A.

BARNFIELD,INC.

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 05, 2012 1:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"Should maintain the finish and shape of the bell area"

Will it maintain it?
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 05, 2012 1:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why do I have a desire to hear a rimshot right now??
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 05, 2012 1:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This must be why some horns were made rimless. No rim to protect
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 7:40 am    Post subject: Re: Protect the rim of your bell Reply with quote

Musical Rim Protector wrote:

The rim protector should not affect the tonal quality of the emitted sound...


Should not?
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 8:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ads go in the marketplace. You need to get 5 posts like everybody else before you place an ad. Contribute to the forum, and then feel free to peddle your product on the site, in the proper place.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 8:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The "proper place" for this product appears to be on the chewing gum stand, in the check-out line at Target.

Regardless, as you say, it shouldn't be more spam in the forums.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 8:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lance Armstrong sells them for $1
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Maarten van Weverwijk
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 8:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What's the higher purpose of this product?
I've seen them on tubas, 'cause quite some players like to rest the instrument's bell on the floor.
But for a trumpet or sax...
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 8:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not to be too cynical but the only market I see for this is for children. But if you're not careful it'll come accross like training wheels. On the other hand if you start making them in fancy colors or patterns you might be on to something. Maybe even with school colors and logos...great for pep and marching bands. I'm thinking about how mouthguards use to be awfully mundane until they started offering them in cool colors and patterns. My son's is hot pink! To the OP, if you use my idea I expect some credit.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 9:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

cjl wrote:
Why do I have a desire to hear a rimshot right now??


http://instantrimshot.com/index.php?sound=rimshot
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 10:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not trying to be the curmudgeon here, but as a repair tech with over 26 years experience, I can tell you the edge around the rim of a horn is one of the strongest parts of the horn. No rubber around its circumference is going to add any strength, and if it could it's still not going to prevent a crease or inward bend from happening. Not that I would suggest trying this, but you can take a trumpet, slam the rim down on its edge and nothing is going to happen to the rim. You’ll bend the bell and pop braces first. Still as an eye-catcher it’s pretty cool.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 07, 2012 11:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

1) Seems like a fairly harmless, but also fairly useless, idea. Might appeal to kids, but still fairly useless.

2) List it in the M-A-R-K-E-T-P-L-A-C-E, after five posts!! Not to be unfriendly to a "new member" here, but many of us do not want to see TH turned into a Craigslist.


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 07, 2012 12:22 pm    Post subject: Why a Musical Rim Protector? Reply with quote

Why I developed/made the Musical Rim Protector (NOT A MUTE)

A few years ago my Son was a freshman in High School. During August is when they started practicing for Marching Band Season. I started noticing little nicks and scratches on his Alto Saxophone and realized it was from his practice sections on the asphalt when they had to lay their instruments down for drills and other reasons (Push-ups:-)). As everyone knows, Musical Instruments aren’t cheap and I wanted his instrument to look as good as possible because I paid almost $5,000.00 for it. I called around to different music stores and went online trying to find something to put around the bell to help reduce the scuffs and little dings. I came across one, but after receiving it in the mail I realized it was not what I was looking for in protection. During the marching season and competitions I noticed the scratches and nicks with almost all the marching instruments. After dozens of drawings, research and talking to parents of band students I came up with the Musical Rim Protector.

When I had prototypes made, I gave them out to several of Band Directors in my area to see what they thought and to get their input, needless to say, they LOVED IT! One Director is an avid Trumpet player and he said, he cringes when a student absently puts their Trumpet bell on the floor and starts to twist it back and forth. The rim protector has been tested by the Band Directors and thus far they say it has NO effect on the tonal quality of the emitted sound. The silicone was engineered to have an air gap around the bead so it still resonates. This is NOT a mute. The Directors are buying it for the instruments they loan out to students plus having it available for the band student’s personal instruments.

Colors…. We are in the processes of having them available in all the school colors and sizes. I’m not a multimillion dollar company so it’s going to take me awhile to have all the sizes and colors available. I’m taking it one size at a time.

I’m a parent that had an idea to help protect my son’s musical instrument.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 07, 2012 12:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

you could market it something like this.

band director says that you need a rimjob?
wait no more......
get a rim protector and keep your gap from getting scratched
and keep those beads where they belong
comes in all colors. add 5 dollars for bleached rim protector
do not insert! this is not a mute!!!

tested and approved by band directors everywhere!
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 07, 2012 12:42 pm    Post subject: Re: Why a Musical Rim Protector? Reply with quote

Musical Rim Protector wrote:
The silicone was engineered to have an air gap around the bead so it still resonates.

I'm sorry, but I simply do not believe this. You're trying to say that this fits without directly touching the bell and that is just not possible.

Whether it makes any difference to the sound or not, whether the bell needs to 'resonate' or not, well, that's a different discussion.

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 07, 2012 12:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

To the OP...
FYI, the first link in you original post contains an extra period so it doesn't work, the second link works fine.

Also since laying a trumpet on concrete means that the bell bow also comes into contact you might want to consider a companion product, some kind or wrap around the bell bow that keeps it from getting scratched as well. Done right this could also protect where the bell bow where it enters the valve block which is prone to damage, is difficult to repair and can permanently degrade a horn.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 07, 2012 12:52 pm    Post subject: Re: Why a Musical Rim Protector? Reply with quote

Musical Rim Protector wrote:


When I had prototypes made, I gave them out to several of Band Directors in my area to see what they thought and to get their input, needless to say, they LOVED IT! One Director is an avid Trumpet player...


Not exactly an exhaustive study.



Musical Rim Protector wrote:


The silicone was engineered to have an air gap around the bead so it still resonates...


This makes no sense to me. You have a silicone band of some kind snugly wrapped around the bell of a trumpet. The silicone stuff HAS to be touching the bell, so by default it's going to have an impact on resonance.


Musical Rim Protector wrote:


I’m a parent that had an idea to help protect my son’s musical instrument.


Kudos to you. I hope you do well with your business, but outside of high school marching programs I don't think you'll see masses of trumpet players looking for these.

There was a guy trying to push some kind of "trumpet sleeve" a little while ago with a similar pitch and he ran into the same responses.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 07, 2012 1:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nobody asked you why you "developed" it. How hard was it to develop a rubber band? Why don't the moderators don't remove stuff like this? Next time I have stuff to sell I guess it's cool to just put it wherever I feel like.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 07, 2012 1:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

wonder if the OP knows the people who developed the "Warmahorn!"
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