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PostPosted: Mon Jan 21, 2002 7:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

"Yesterday I went to a music store and bought "Arban's Complete Conservatory Method for Trumpet" The scales, and examples get harder and harder as you progress through the book.. I think i will take your 15 minuite advice and use this book..."

I was taught years ago that the Arban's Book when used properly can increase range, aid in improving one's sound, increase one's endurance, and overall technical prowess on the instrument.
The Arban's book is made up of sections. The book should be approached as being 20 different books in one. When taking lessons, I would be given an exercise from about 15 sections each week. I use the slurring section on pg.44- ex #22 for flexibility and breath control, since each line should be played in one breath. I assign one line per week. #23 on page 44, is a great range building exercise. I play a soft scale and continue right into the lip trill of each example. I play #46 on page 20 as a longsetting exercise.
The point I am trying to make is that the Arban's Book can't be beat. It is timeless, and can be used to meet the needs of all trumpet players.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 21, 2002 10:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Arban's IS great!
A friend of mine once called it the "Bible" - to me, it is the core of my routine
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I don't see its purpose for high-range development??
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 21, 2002 11:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good point Mr. Trager.
The way I look at it is mainly from the back. I love the old Fantaisies and the characteristic studies. The triple tonguing section can't be beat, either.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 21, 2002 12:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

For upper register development I like to take the little songs from the Art of Phrasing section and after I have learned them transpose them up a half step, the up a whole step, etc. until I can play them musically in all 12 keys. I work up to playing each song an octave higher than written.

I have also used this transposition approach to the double and triple tongue sections (although I find that working up to playing these studies up a perfect fourth is plenty for me).
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 21, 2002 12:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If memory serves, Maynard developed his high register power by gradually taking the duets, phrasing studies, and other tunes in the back up higher, step-by-step, octave-by-octave. I would assume he worked the earlier exercises up an octave (or two, or three, or...) as well. In this case, it serves as an excellent source of known material for range (endurance, etc.) development.

Like any book, you get out what you put in, and one shouldn't be too leary of modifying it for their own purposes.

FWIW - Don
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 21, 2002 4:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, that is a great point. Last year when I first got my Arban's book I showed it to my teacher and asked him if we could work with it and he said yeah. So he tells me open it up to the scales section. And I tell him that I only on page 3 and he's like no no no thats not how use Arbans you do a little bit of each section. So then he started me with a routine. Lip slurs, scales and arpeggios and sight reading.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2002 2:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It seems most great trumpet players have underbites akin to Jay Leno's. Unless you have one of those underbites and were therefore destined to play the trumpet from birth, you might try doing what others have done. Go to Arban Book, Page 12, Exercise 9 and take it up one octave, blowing progressively harder as you go higher. My high school trumpet teacher took from Roy Stevens who, as I understand it, used this exercise to build endurance and range. It seems REAL simple until your excercise begins with G on top of the staff. In high school we blew Kenton tunes, which required range up up to A.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 30, 2002 3:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"Go to Arban Book, Page 12, Exercise 9 and take it up one octave, blowing progressively harder as you go higher. My high school trumpet teacher took from Roy Stevens who, as I understand it, used this exercise to build endurance and range. It seems REAL simple until your excercise begins with G on top of the staff. In high school we blew Kenton tunes, which required range up up to A."

Dear RK,
That's exactly the way that exercise was taught to me. I guess you answered an earlier poster's question on how the Arban Book can be used to increase range. I find that playing that exercise up an octave is extremely beneficial as an endurance builder. Sometimes I will play that exercise as a longsetting exercise. Please remember to rest as often as you play when doing this type of routine.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 02, 2002 5:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I found an old old beat up Arban book on ebay cheap... what a great find and a great way to practice!

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 09, 2012 10:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"I was taught years ago that the Arban's Book when used properly can increase range, aid in improving one's sound, increase one's endurance, and overall technical prowess on the instrument.
The Arban's book is made up of sections. The book should be approached as being 20 different books in one. When taking lessons, I would be given an exercise from about 15 sections each week. I use the slurring section on pg.44- ex #22 for flexibility and breath control, since each line should be played in one breath. I assign one line per week. #23 on page 44, is a great range building exercise. I play a soft scale and continue right into the lip trill of each example. I play #46 on page 20 as a longsetting exercise."

@Wtrager : I know this thread is REALLY old but I just came across it and was wondering what the 20 sections are that you divide the Arban's book into? Thanks
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 10, 2012 2:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Holy crap! A 10-year old thread resurrected ? I think that's a record!

My favourite exercise is training endurance through the 14 studies at the back. I try to play as many measures as I can in ine breath, and then rest and try again the other day. Works wonders!
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 10, 2012 3:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chantalylace wrote:
@Wtrager : I know this thread is REALLY old but I just came across it and was wondering what the 20 sections are that you divide the Arban's book into? Thanks

You might want to check out Eric Bolvin's "The Arban Manual", although he breaks it down in to significantly more than 20 pieces...

Eric posts here as EBjazz.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 10, 2012 6:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

J.B. Arbans
" Pretty much after the invention of the piston or valve, Arban perhaps started it all. He wanted to prove to the world that the cornet with valves could be just as beautiful a solo instrument as say the violin or flute. And I believe he did just that. He wrote the book to be used in the school he started around 1844. It has stood the test of time. And it's just as valuable today the Arban Method as it was when it was first written."
from Bill Knevitt


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 10, 2012 7:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ten year zombie thread ressurected by a 1-poster has to be a record.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 10, 2012 7:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

"You might want to check out Eric Bolvin's "The Arban Manual", although he breaks it down in to significantly more than 20 pieces... "

Thanks swthiel!
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 10, 2012 10:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

10 years and nobody mentioned page 125?
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 10, 2012 4:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's pages 125 - 130 and pages 39 - 47
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 10, 2012 5:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is there a modern Arbans manual? The etudes and songs Arban chose were the popular music of his time. While I do like a lot of those tunes, I'd like to have an Arban's type book that uses tunes from the big band era and on.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 10, 2012 6:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

afp wrote:
I'd like to have an Arban's type book that uses tunes from the big band era and on.


Is there some reason modern music has to be printed in the Arban's book for you to play it?

Sounds like you're asking for a "real book" type of publication to play tunes out of.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 10, 2012 7:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think it would be cool to have characteristic studies written in big band and/or jazz styles.
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