mutes for flugel

pair of kings · Posted: Sun Oct 19, 2003 6:58 am Post subject:

I saw that Marek is in the Market place looking for flugel mutes. I don't get the idea that he really checks out the forum but thought it was a subject would interest our good friend Rich

I've never had a reason to mute a flugelhorn .... but a few years ago I bought a used trombone that came with a cup and a straight mute. Somehow I figured out that they did more or less fit my flugel.

why would you mute a flugel anyway?

just curious.

trumplyr · Posted: Sun Oct 19, 2003 7:14 am Post subject:

???????????????????????

GordonH · Posted: Sun Oct 19, 2003 7:15 am Post subject:

Years ago i wanted aharmon mute for a flugel and after trying to order a humes and berg (unsuccessfully even though its in their catalogue) I ended up with a trombone one which was ok but not ideal was OK but not ideal as it didnt sound quite right.

Gordon

FatPauly · Posted: Sun Oct 19, 2003 7:26 am Post subject:

So they don't breed?

> pair of kings wrote:
>
> ...why would you mute a flugel anyway?
>
> just curious.

- Paul Artola
Ellicott City, Maryland

pair of kings · Posted: Sun Oct 19, 2003 7:34 am Post subject:

Ha Ha Ha! good one Paul!
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I just checked back here and saw the reply with the ???????
so what is the question?

I thought maybe it was my reference to Rich that didn't make sense,
-- --Were there some posts deleted here on the C/F forum this week?
Did I make it all up or was there an animated discussion on the merits of the flugelhorn?

BeboppinFool · Posted: Sun Oct 19, 2003 9:25 am Post subject:

pair of kings · Posted: Sun Oct 19, 2003 3:16 pm Post subject:

glad you liked that, Rich.
--We're getting ready to bop out with some duets so I thought of you and just checked in here 1st. I was going to try them on trombone, but maybe I'll go with flugel & cup mute instead. We'll get some sound clips (ouch)

trumplyr · Posted: Sun Oct 19, 2003 4:38 pm Post subject:

Pair of Kings,

????????? translates into "Uhhhhhhhhh................I don't know"

James B. Quick · Posted: Sun Oct 19, 2003 6:50 pm Post subject:

I use a Jo-Ral Trombone Bubble Harmon-type mute in my flugel. It is free blowing and gives a nice tone for pieces like 'Moonlight in Vermont". I tried the Jo-Ral Harmon -style mute for flugel, but it is an odd thing, with three corks like a straight mute, and a bubble on the end, but I didn't like it... jbqd

bophead · Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2003 5:15 am Post subject:

I heard Art Farmer using a harmon on a flugel. Just like anything else Art did on the flugel, it was warm, tasty and thought provoking. I went out and got the same mute that Art played (the same type jbquick speaks of). I don't get the same sound Art got though, it must be the horn.
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musiclifeline · Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2003 8:37 am Post subject:

Believe it or not, I actually have a Manny Klein ssh-ssh! Mute for my Flugel. Basically, I have a practice studio where I play, but if I want to play in my apartment, I have to use a mute. If I want to practice something on flugel that I forgot to work on in the studio, I pop in the H&B and I'm good to go. It's reasonably free blowing and in tune up to about D above high C.

Keith E Miland · Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2003 6:04 am Post subject:

In other parts of the world, the flugel is more than just jazz instrument.

British style brass band music often calls for mutes for the flugel. Apparently the composer/arranger wants a specfic tone quality. In overture to Mack and Mabel, the flugel has a counter melody to to a muted solo cornet melody. The flugel part calls for a mute I guess to "match" the cornet. It sounds better when the flugel is muted.

As a side comment, there are even brass band pieces that call for mutes for Eb tenor horns, euponiums and even tubas.

FWIW

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Bill Dishman · Heavyweight Member Joined: 06 Feb 2003 Posts: 1174

I got a Jo-ral Harmon for Flugelhorn. It fits my Cuesnon great. The only problem was that the corks were similar to a straight mute and did not wrap around the end like a typical harmon. I took the old corks off and put a strip of sheet cork on to seal the bell and it works great. Has a deep tone quality and plays in tune well also. Very expensive though.

Bill Dishman
Gainesville, Florida

GordonH · Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2003 12:38 pm Post subject:

I heard Maynard Ferguson play But Beautiful at a concert once using a harmon mute in his flugel.
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