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| I am going to be an incoming freshmen in college this fall. What are some trumpet things you would suggest getting? I want to know what I need to get, mouthpieces, horns, gadgets, etc. What do you all suggest? |
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| I'm not sure what you already have, but you will definitely want a gig bag to carry around campus, a tuner, and a metronome. As for books and what not, contact your trumpet prof. I am sure they have a list of books and possibly have a trumpet/ mouthpiece preference. They will probably want to hear you before making a recommendation first though. |
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Pete
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Horn stands, mutes: straight,cup, bucket, harmon/bubble, plunger, stand light and a portable music stand. I assume that you have a Bb trumpet. A flugel horn would be good also. This list is a necessity when playing in a jazz ensemble, sitting in on rehearsal bands, playing theater work, etc. None of this stuff has to be new. check Ebay,and the TH marketplace.
As mentioned above by TrumpetDS, contact your trumpet instructor about books. I'm sure there would not be any equipment recommendation as an incoming freshman for a C trumpet, or piccolo trumpet right away if at all, unless you are going to be a classical performance major.
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A lot of trumpet studios have a list of method/etude books broken out by year (Freshman, Soph, etc.) on their web site, or can provide one. Might want to fill in any holes in your music library before you get there.
Also, things tend to "walk off" in college (i.e. get stolen). You might think about scanning in all of your sheet music, if you haven't already, and figuring out how you will secure all the high-cost music equipment when you arrive.
Don't assume your dorm room (if that's where you'll be living) is secure. I once had a roommate leave college during the Xmas break, when I got back after the holidays, a bunch of my stuff had gone missing. That was a random assignment. Maybe you'll be living with somebody you know, and this will be less of a concern. |
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You should definitely have a good Bb trumpet no matter what. Don't skimp on it, get one you're really happy with. You don't really need to get a new mouthpiece unless you are unhappy with yours. I'd hazard against getting something expensive or exotic right now; some professors won't like the more out there brands. Concerning other horns, you should get a C if you're classically focused, or a flugelhorn if you're jazz focused. Perhaps wait until you get there so your professor can help you pick one.
Mutes - have a straight, cup, and harmon for sure.
As far as method books, probably ask your professor, but the basic set, to me, is: Arban, Clarke, some sort of flexibility book, and etudes. I also really like the Gekker Articulation Studies, it's good for articulation and works you through a lot of different scales as well.
No gadgets are really necessary. Your money is usually better spent on method books or recordings. That said, I like having a Brass Buzzer, and have gotten good use out of the Warburton P.E.T.E. A metronome is essential if you don't have one already.
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You should contact your future trumpet professor and ask for a list of recommended trumpet materials. This will eliminate the guesswork.
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Crazy Finn
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| Matthew Anklan wrote: | | You should contact your future trumpet professor and ask for a list of recommended trumpet materials. This will eliminate the guesswork. |
| RandyTX wrote: | | A lot of trumpet studios have a list of method/etude books broken out by year (Freshman, Soph, etc.) on their web site, or can provide one. Might want to fill in any holes in your music library before you get there. |
Buying method/etude books would be alright. Get a list. Make sure you have basics (Arban, Clarke, etc). Depending on where you live and where you're going to school, it might be easier to get them this summer. Plus, you can practice them a bit.
I'm not sure when this "buy a bunch of new stuff for college" phenomenon started. Back when I went, which a bit under two decades ago (dang, I'm old) you went to college with what you could afford (barely) and what you had or could scrape out of relatives. Old sofas, old tiny TV's, old microwaves, maybe a VCR if you're lucky, and a wheezy old 80's car.
Now people show up with 40"+ LCDs, PS3's, and shiny new cars. How is any of that going to help you learn in college? Learning to deal with less is a good lesson.
Of course, we tried NOT to rack up thousands and thousands of dollars of unnecessary debt.
| trumpetDS wrote: | | I'm not sure what you already have, but you will definitely want a gig bag to carry around campus, a tuner, and a metronome. |
I'd want better protection than a "dent bag" for college. Torpedo Bag would be ideal. Tuner and metronome? Sure, but not essential.
| Pete wrote: | | Horn stands, mutes: straight,cup, bucket, harmon/bubble, plunger, stand light and a portable music stand. I assume that you have a Bb trumpet. A flugel horn would be good also. This list is a necessity when playing in a jazz ensemble, sitting in on rehearsal bands, playing theater work, etc. None of this stuff has to be new. check Ebay,and the TH marketplace. |
Bah! You don't need most of that stuff. Horn stands? Nice and cheap but not necessary. Stand lights? Definitely no. Portable music stands? You probably have an old wire stand at home, so that's fine.
Practice rooms amazingly usually have music stands - nice solid Manhassets. I've only played one gig where a stand light might be handy and it wasn't provided. Ever. You've got better things to spend money on than stuff like that.
| RandyTX wrote: | | Don't assume your dorm room (if that's where you'll be living) is secure. I once had a roommate leave college during the Xmas break, when I got back after the holidays, a bunch of my stuff had gone missing. That was a random assignment. Maybe you'll be living with somebody you know, and this will be less of a concern. |
I spent a good percentage of my college years in the music building. We had lockers there that were secure, so I kept my horns and music and mutes there. I also lived on campus - maybe a five minute walk from there, so it was perfect.
Don't buy a bunch of overpriced new stuff that you don't really need. There's plenty of expenses that are necessary - save you money for those.
I showed to college with my Yamaha Bb, a 3C and a 1C, Straight and Cup mute, a fair stack of books I had from private lessons in HS, and an old custom frankenhorn Eb that I used on my auditions on the Hummel/Haydn. Didn't need the Eb, but I got a deal on it ($600) and used it quite a bit my senior year of HS.
What I'd bring:
- The horn I used in HS, hopefully it's a decent pro-level horn.
- The mouthpiece I used in HS
- A cup mute and a straight mute.
- Methods/Etude books.
- an open mind
All that other stuff can be bought when you find out what you actually need or like or want. Don't spend money unnecessarily, don't buy things you don't really need. Get deals. Enjoy life. Learn things. Don't get so focused on trumpet and music that you forget there's other things in life.
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| Crazy Finn wrote: |
What I'd bring:
- The horn I used in HS, hopefully it's a decent pro-level horn.
- The mouthpiece I used in HS
- A cup mute and a straight mute.
- Methods/Etude books.
- an open mind
All that other stuff can be bought when you find out what you actually need or like or want. Don't spend money unnecessarily, don't buy things you don't really need. Get deals. Enjoy life. Learn things. Don't get so focused on trumpet and music that you forget there's other things in life. |
I agree. The one thing I would add to this list is pizza coupons!  Good luck in school!
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| plankowner110 wrote: | | I agree. The one thing I would add to this list is pizza coupons! Good luck in school! |
Without a doubt!
I lived on Pizza Patrol's campus special back in the day.
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| Pete wrote: | | Horn stands, mutes: straight,cup, bucket, harmon/bubble, plunger, stand light and a portable music stand. |
I don't believe I ever had to use my own stand. Neither did I have to carry around a stand light or some of those mutes. It's probably better to wait until you get there to make these decisions.
Regarding a gig bag, I don't think I ever carried my trumpet to classes or around campus that much, rather it stayed pretty much in the locker unless I was using it in the music school. In that case, I preferred the stock case because I could put my horn and accessories, even some of my lesson books or ensemble music all in one case. Since I wasn't lugging them far, it seemed more convenient to me vs using a gig bag for the horn and other bags for accessories and music.
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it's been said but FOLDING MUSIC STAND. You'd think that at a music school there would be stands, don't make that assumption. Plenty of pencils! Seriously, keep a half dozen in your case. An audio recording device like a Zoom H2n, and a good pair of headphones so you can always listen to music and not bug your roommate(s)
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Some sort of label-er, a rubber stamp for music and books and something for all of your mutes/tuners/'nomes etc...
All that gear has a better chance of being returned after its lent out or forgotten in a practice room or left after rehearsal if it has your name on it.
All my mutes have address labels on them, I got a few free sheets in the mail for a reason I don't remember but I've put them to good use.
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| kehaulani wrote: |
Regarding a gig bag, I don't think I ever carried my trumpet to classes or around campus that much, rather it stayed pretty much in the locker unless I was using it in the music school. |
I NEVER left my horn in a locker. If you're in the US, just assume it would get lifted.
Your concern should be having your chops together! Seriously. A metronome is one gadget that helps you with this. A tuner? Most tuners are not as good as your ear to begin with. Korg makes a combo metronome / tuner that might be worth your while.
And regardless what style of music you favor, a good quality recorder / playback device and a decent pair of in-ear speakers ... man I wish they had that when I was in school!
Record your lessons, load up great trumpet players, etc. You're going to be spending plenty on books soon enough, what makes it valuable is the instruction you'll get on how to practice from them. |
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| kehaulani wrote: | | Regarding a gig bag, I don't think I ever carried my trumpet to classes or around campus that much, rather it stayed pretty much in the locker unless I was using it in the music school. |
| razeontherock wrote: | | I NEVER left my horn in a locker. If you're in the US, just assume it would get lifted. |
Huh. I never had a problem with the music instrument lockers. I don't know of anyone that did at school.
It was far more secure in a closed, locked locker in the music building than in my dorm room. A bit over 200 students lived in my freshmen dorm. Sure, my roomie and I generally locked the door if we left for an extended period of time, but if I or he visited someone across the hall or the bathrooms, I don't know. Nothing was ever stolen from either my rooms or my music locker.
Maybe times have changed, I don't know.
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Horns
- Bb
OPTIONAL
- C (if you plan on doing orchestra)
- Flugel (if you plan on doing jazz)
- Picc (only if you want to play picc... see if the school has one first)
Mutes
- straight
- cup
- harmon
- plunger
Mouthpieces
- Whatever you want. Your instructor may make a recommendation later.
Music
- Arbans
- Clarke Technical Studies
- Probably the charlier etude book
- Real Book Bb Vol 1 (jazz only)
- Again, your instructor will probably make recommendations.
Other Gear
- Case, obviously
- Metronome/Tuner
Other recommendations
- Try to find a large/versatile multihorn case in addition to your single cases.
- I also have a slim double case. Good for days when you need a C/Bb, or Bb and a few mutes, or Bb and a tablet PC with irealbook, or any number of things.
- If you are being forced into marching band, go find a 100 dollar craigslist horn and play on that so you don't risk damaging your nice horn
- If you don't already have a nice pro level Bb trumpet, get one! For most people (notice I said most) this is far more important than having a flugel or something. If you don't already have a nice Bb, maybe talk with your trumpet instructor and get their help choosing one that fits you. In fact, as far as any horn/mouthpiece stuff goes, if you don't already own it, don't buy it until you consult your professor. Best to make the most informed decision possible here. Some might even be able to hook you up with a discount if they are extra friendly with some local places, or a performing artist for a certain brand.
- If you are on a budget and need a flugel, go look up the ACB doublers flugel. Same for if you need a picc on a budget. That thing plays pretty nicely.
- Trumpet stands. Get them.
- Mouthpiece cases. I have a nice bright blue one that's easy to find.
- Buy extra valve oil. Keep it in multiple places. (Get the Yamaha synthetic stuff, its remarkably good, and pretty cheap)
- Look up a good repair guy in your area. Keep his phone number stored... just in case.
- Keep a pencil case in all your horn cases
- Buy every tune you play on itunes. You'll be surprised how much it helps to listen to what you are playing. Burn a few CDs of the concert before the performance and you'll be your trumpet section's best friend.
- Depending on your schedule / practice room situation, you may want to invest in a good practice mute.
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| What is your emphasis? Education, performance, jazz studies, etc? |
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| razeontherock wrote: |
Your concern should be having your chops together! Seriously. A metronome is one gadget that helps you with this. A tuner? Most tuners are not as good as your ear to begin with. Korg makes a combo metronome / tuner that might be worth your while.
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The Korg combo that I am familiar with only has standard metronome speeds. It is much better to have something that changes speeds at 1 beat per minute. You can get them for your phone, cheap.
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Get a RFID device for your instrument at http://www.snagg.com
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| zackh411 wrote: | | - If you are being forced into marching band, go find a 100 dollar craigslist horn and play on that so you don't risk damaging your nice horn |
Why would you want to play on a POS ever?! All that will do is screw up your playing, since it will force your chops to overcompensate by trying to make the crappy instrument sound like your good instrument.
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| zackh411 wrote: | | - If you are being forced into marching band, go find a 100 dollar craigslist horn and play on that so you don't risk damaging your nice horn |
| Adam V wrote: | | Why would you want to play on a POS ever?! All that will do is screw up your playing, since it will force your chops to overcompensate by trying to make the crappy instrument sound like your good instrument. |
You're both right.
No good pro-level horn should be taken out for marching band. Or Pep Band Nope. Neither the horn nor marching or pep band deserve it.
I would never take anything other than my ugly Olds Ambassador out on a marching field or on a float or many other situations, if I could help it.
All that said, there's no reason to play on a terrible horn.
Fortunately, there's lots of possibilities that fit both bills. It's still possible to find a decent Olds Ambassador or old Holton Collegiate or one of the other decent tank-like horns of yesteryear for a reasonable price. You might not be able to get one that's pretty or get one that works for $80 like I did a little over a decade ago, but you can still do it for a reasonable price.
If you've still got your old student horn that you started on, assuming that's it a decent player - that'll do nicely.
Sure, you want to play on equipment that works well and plays great. However, that's no reason to drag your $3000 professional horn out on a football field or into the bleachers when it won't make a bit of difference in the overall sound. Accidents do and will happen. Trust me.
Also, my Ambassador is a pretty nice horn and plays quite well.
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