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lburrows
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Hi Bob
Great to see you on here. We're all good, thanks. I really hope that you & your family are well.
Take Care
Lou
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TupeloCOTA
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| Quote: | Thank you very much. My new cornet is due to arrive by courier today, so I've made a final decision.
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Well???? 
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lburrows
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Hi TupeloCOTA
I haven't yet posted on here, as having had a very busy week, and having mostly trumpet gigs this week, I've only played my new cornet once, at my Brass Band practice in addition to my inital play tests of it.
I'm going to wait until I've done a bit more playing on it, before sharing my experiences with it.
All I can say for now, is that I'm extremely pleased with it, and that it plays very well with a very nice tone. Its intonation is very good, and it plays very well at all dynamics.
All the best
Lou
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TupeloCOTA
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Lou,
Just glad you got your new horn. I am a comebacker after a 25 year break away from trumpet playing. Growing up here in the US I thought that cornet was a beginner trumpet. This time around I have become quite enamored with the cornet and brass bands (YouTube is good for something). I really love Richard Marshall's playing. Anyway, I only have an old 1958 Olds Ambassador to play with for now and reading other folks reviews is really helpful. I hope to get a pro cornet sometime in the future, maybe find a brass band somewhere as well.
Best Wishes,
Russ
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| TupeloCOTA wrote: | | I only have an old 1958 Olds Ambassador to play with for now |
... which has got a sound and feel entirely different from traditional shepherd´s crook cornets...
Of course the long American cornet and the shepherd´s crook models are both fun to play.
Just wanted to clarify. Each to its own. |
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TupeloCOTA
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| Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 7:36 am Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | ... which has got a sound and feel entirely different from traditional shepherd´s crook cornets...
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Which is why I am so interested in hearing feedback on top-line horns  . Right now I only play for my own amusement. When I have more time I would love to get a "proper" cornet and find some BBB to play with.
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Dale Proctor
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Yeah, BBB's are few and far between in this area (Alabama/Mississippi). As far as I know, the one I play with here in Huntsville is the only one in either state. Our next big fundraiser is to buy shoes for the band.
(Just thought I'd throw in a Southern stereotype for good measure...  )
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TupeloCOTA
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Dale,
Maybe I could stop by sometime. When do you rehearse? I have been back and forth to Decatur on some work recently.
Russell
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Dale Proctor
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Russell, we're taking most of the summer off, and will probably resume toward the middle of August. Our regular rehearsal has always been on Thursday, but there is some talk of moving it to Monday. There's a problem with dropping in for a rehearsal, though...we rehearse on Redstone Arsenal at the U.S. Army Materiel Command Band facility, and you have to have a badge to get on base. If the commander of the band, who is also a member of the brass band, retires soon (he may be considering it), we could be elsewhere, though. I'll have to let you know.
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Dale,
Thanks, actually I am retired military and go on base all the time. I will check back with you in the fall, would love to come by sometime and hear the band.
Lou,
Sorry about hijacking the thread...
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Dale Proctor
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Great! No problem, then. I'll PM you the rehearsal dates when I get our new schedule. Now, back to our regularly scheduled program...
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lburrows
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| TupeloCOTA wrote: | Lou,
Just glad you got your new horn. I am a comebacker after a 25 year break away from trumpet playing. Growing up here in the US I thought that cornet was a beginner trumpet. This time around I have become quite enamored with the cornet and brass bands (YouTube is good for something). I really love Richard Marshall's playing. Anyway, I only have an old 1958 Olds Ambassador to play with for now and reading other folks reviews is really helpful. I hope to get a pro cornet sometime in the future, maybe find a brass band somewhere as well.
Best Wishes,
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Hi Russ. Please excuse this short reply via my mobile, as i'm having a v busy week. No problem at all about you digressing a little on my thread. I used to have a band issued olds special cornet, which was pretty similar to your ambassador. Nice cornet, but different to a short model shepherd's crook model. I too like Richard Marshall's playing. Re. pro-cornets, i really like both my bach & smith watkins. Both are great cornets. Although both work well in either setting, my preference would be for the bach in a concert band/military band setting, & the smith watkins in a brass band setting. All the best. Lou
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| Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2012 7:37 pm Post subject: SW etc |
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Thanks for an informative thread folks.
I've been playing SW - K2 for a while now - free blowing, slots really nicely, warm sound etc
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lburrows
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| Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2012 2:19 am Post subject: |
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Hi delano
Thanks very much, but I have my Smith Watkins-K2 cornet now, which I am very happy with, and I am also very happy with my Bach 183 flugel.
Take care
Lou
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Bach 180ML 37/25 Trumpet - Bach 3C
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Besson 927 Sovereign Cornet - Bach 5A
B&H Imperial Cornet - Bach 5A
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lburrows
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Hi
I'm now ready to share my thoughts on my new Smith Watkins K-2 cornet.
I really like this cornet. Playability wise, it plays fairly similar to my Bach Strad, but is more open, which is particularly noticeable when playing for longer sessions. For example, at my last brass band practice, in my regular brass band, in which I intend to continue using my Bach 184ML cornet, as it matches the set owned by the band, and used by the rest of the front row cornets and the rep, I used the Smith Watkins for the first half and Bach for the second. My lip was feeling fairly tired by the mid-practice break, but on my Bach during the second half, I seemed to have endless endurance. This is presumably owing to the Smith Watkins being a large bore, and is presumably a case of spending more time on it.
Intonation is excellent on the Smith Watkins, the best of any cornet I have tried.
The tone is very nice, although different to the Besson Prestige, is very British cornet like.
I'm very glad that I went for this cornet. Tone wise I preferred the Prestige, but I much much prefer the playability of the Smith Watkins.
The blow is nice and open whilst still have a desirable level of resistance. The blow is also even throughout the registers. At least with me on the mouthpiece end, this cornet has a very full lower register with excellent intonation. The upper register is fairly easy and also has excellent intonation.
All the best
Lou
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Bach 180ML 37/25 Trumpet - Bach 3C
Bach 184ML Cornet - Kanstul custom Bach 3C
Besson 927 Sovereign Cornet - Bach 5A
B&H Imperial Cornet - Bach 5A
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MM2
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I have a 6330II Yamaha I bought from the factory in Japan in 2008. It is a lovely horn--and responds, for me, to a wide range of mpcs. But I have a few Curry short shanks (not the BBB model) I also have a an unlikely horn that works very well with the same Curry mpcs.--a Kanstal-1972 Olds Ambasadore horn that Is a wonderful and fluid and open horn.
I had a 921 Globe B&H LB 1983 Boosey/Besson. Way too big and a stuffy upper register and jut awful lower register. Excellent valves-micro bore. I gave it to a dear friend of mine because selling horns is a risky proposition. A very good chance it will wind up on some no=playing collectors wall and wind up in the wrong hand when the director dies. Tis 921 didn't work for me, so I gave it to a guy who raves about it and has already found a mpc. that works for him. I feel good that that horn is going to get playing time-and I could use the money--but I'd rather see it in the hands of a player, not these silly collectors who's assessment of the horn is "a smokey Miles Sound." Some very bad actions by collectors. Most are very angry people who can't play so they collect and hold them on a stick in front of a player implying "hang out with me and maybe I'll will you the horn"
There were some collectors in NYC like this. but now dead and i have nothing more to say on this topic.
Play what you like--not some arbitrary set of rules--some are unshakeale--you can not play in a BBB in England and almost anywhere else without a shepherds horn--again, sillymess. But Britin is known for silliness and it is kind of quaint. |
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Dale Proctor
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| Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2012 4:57 am Post subject: |
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| MM2 wrote: | | ...I gave it to a dear friend of mine because selling horns is a risky proposition. A very good chance it will wind up on some no=playing collectors wall and wind up in the wrong hand when the director dies... |
I can see that logic with a fantastic and/or very rare horn, but not for a common one. When I have a horn I don't particularly like, I don't care what happens to it after I sell it. Hopefully, the buyer will like it, but I don't lose sleep wondering if it ended up as a wall hanger or stuffed in a storage room with 100 more...
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| MM2 wrote: | | Play what you like--not some arbitrary set of rules--some are unshakeale--you can not play in a BBB in England and almost anywhere else without a shepherds horn--again, sillymess. But Britin is known for silliness and it is kind of quaint. |
MM2, your last sentence seems out of place
to me because it is pretty unfair and weirdly biased, to say the least. 
Apart from that, the spelling is ... umh ... interesting.
Well, the English language is has always been open to neologisms,
so perhaps "sillymess" might make it, perhaps rather than "unshakeale" (who would shake one´s ale?) or "shepherds horn"... |
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Accordion Ron
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WOW! If Kanstul makes all these different instruments, he must have a giant facility. Thousands of employees, etc. So, how come the USA jobless count is so high? Glad he doesn't "outsource" to China.
PS Love my Wild Thing, which I hear is also made by "him" |
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