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AV4596
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 Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2012 6:07 pm Post subject: Best Brass practice mute |
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| Where can I find a best brass practice mute? I played on one and liked it a lot but can't find one. I searched Amazon, Ebay, craigslist, Local music shops in columbus Ohio, even this site and I still can't find one. Any Suggestions?? |
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Bill Dishman
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| Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2012 7:32 pm Post subject: Best Brass PM |
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Horn Trader sells them. WWBW does also I believe.
Check out Gerry Lopez Music. I think he does also.
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Fuzzy Dunlop
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Does anyone have that Dillon mute? How does it compare to the Best Brass mute? |
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KMT
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| Fuzzy Dunlop wrote: | | Does anyone have that Dillon mute? How does it compare to the Best Brass mute? |
The Dillon mute is not as good. DEg (I think) also makes a similar mute. It is also inferior to the Best Brass version. Both of the clone versions are not very good mutes at all. They tend to be out of tune and play a little funkily. |
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adagiotrumpet
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| Fuzzy Dunlop wrote: |
Does anyone have that Dillon mute? How does it compare to the Best Brass mute? |
The last time I was at Dillon's, I had a chance to compare the Best Brass with Dillon's version side by side since they had both in stock. I found them to be almost identical in volume and blow. If anything, the Dillon's version may play slightly sharp to the Best Brass, and when I say slightly, I mean they were still pretty close in intonation. Constructionwise, the seam on the foam rubber used to hold the mute in the bell was not perfect where it came together on Dillon's, whereas the seam was perfect on the Best Brass. Both mutes had the foam rubber glued securely to the mute however. |
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Redhothorn
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Fuzzy Dunlop
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| Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2012 2:06 pm Post subject: |
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| adagiotrumpet wrote: | | Fuzzy Dunlop wrote: |
Does anyone have that Dillon mute? How does it compare to the Best Brass mute? |
The last time I was at Dillon's, I had a chance to compare the Best Brass with Dillon's version side by side since they had both in stock. I found them to be almost identical in volume and blow. If anything, the Dillon's version may play slightly sharp to the Best Brass, and when I say slightly, I mean they were still pretty close in intonation. Constructionwise, the seam on the foam rubber used to hold the mute in the bell was not perfect where it came together on Dillon's, whereas the seam was perfect on the Best Brass. Both mutes had the foam rubber glued securely to the mute however. |
Thanks for the info. Definitely going to check it out the next time I'm at Dillon. |
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Bill Dishman
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| Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2012 2:14 pm Post subject: Best Brass / Dillon's PM |
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My practice mute study includes both of these practice mutes (and 25 others as well) with evaluations and commentaries.
If you would like a copy, e-mail me at afn54653@yahoo.com and I will send you one.
Bill Dishman
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Adam V
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What did you like about the Best Brass mute?
I found the intonation on those to be absolutely terrible. Maybe it was a bad combination with my horn, but the low register (low C and below) was over a half-step sharp and it got flatter as I ascended, being over a half-step flat right around G on top of the staff (or what should've been a G, anyway).
It was also stuffy as all get out...
I may seem like a contrarian, but I'm just trying to help you out. I've played several practice mutes that are much more in-tune and less resistant, at a lower price.
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- "Remutzit" (mute made from a Renuzit air freshener). About $1 plus some labor. Great intonation, especially for the price. Barely bigger than the Best Brass, and has much less back pressure.
- Bremner "SSSShh!" mute. $50, fantastic intonation, very free-blowing. Only drawback is the larger size.
- Don Maslet practice mute. $60, best intonation I've ever found in a practice mute, adjustable resistance, very quiet while remaining free-blowing, smaller than the Bremner. Available at Osmun Music.
I would suggest you try the Best Brass again, but with a tuner (if you haven't done that yet). If it plays in tune for you, and you still like it, I'd say congrats!
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kehaulani
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| Adam V wrote: | - Bremner "SSSShh!" mute. $50, fantastic intonation, very free-blowing. Only drawback is the larger size.
- Don Maslet practice mute. $60, best intonation I've ever found in a practice mute, adjustable resistance, very quiet while remaining free-blowing, smaller than the Bremner. |
Adam V, since you've played both of these, setting aside the other characteristics, which of these two would you say was the quietest?
Have you played the Yamaha Silent Brass, and can you compare its volume to the quietest of the two above? Thanks.
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Adam V
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| kehaulani wrote: | | Adam V wrote: | - Bremner "SSSShh!" mute. $50, fantastic intonation, very free-blowing. Only drawback is the larger size.
- Don Maslet practice mute. $60, best intonation I've ever found in a practice mute, adjustable resistance, very quiet while remaining free-blowing, smaller than the Bremner. |
Adam V, since you've played both of these, setting aside the other characteristics, which of these two would you say was the quietest?
Have you played the Yamaha Silent Brass, and can you compare its volume to the quietest of the two above? Thanks. |
I'd say the Maslet mute is definitely the quieter of the two.
I have very limited experience with the Yamaha Silent Brass, but if I remember correctly it was as quiet as the Maslet.
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Thanks a lot, Adam, I appreciate the reply.
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Bill Dishman
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| Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2012 7:25 am Post subject: Pitch ande Practice mutes |
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Pitch can vary with practice mutes just like with other types of mutes.
Contributing factors can be the thickness of the mute cork or foam and the shape/size of the bell flare. It can also be a combination of the two.
As for the Best Brass models....
I found that it important not to "jam" the mute into the bell. Compressing the foam causes problems with both pitch and resistance. Gently inserting the mute just enough to be secure resolves the problem of playing sharp (especially in the low register) and opens up the feel to be more open.
Larger bell flares also allow mutes to be inserted too far in causing sharpness in pitch.
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| The Dillons version seems to be cheap enough to make a pixie mute by removing some foam. Has anyone tried? |
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The new version of the Humes and Berg practice mute is in aluminum instead of fiber and that thing is QUIET! Also plays in tune and isn't terribly stuffy.
Amazon link
They also have a "snubnose" version: Amazon link
Haven't tried the snubnose version.
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| Posted: Thu Jul 26, 2012 1:28 pm Post subject: |
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winds up i have a best brass mute that sits on the shelf. i prefer using a wick cup mute for practice.
mutes are particularly a live and learn experience. ..chuck |
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Sold my best brass mute. Like Chuck, I much prefer my D. Wick cup mute for quite practice.
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| Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2012 8:19 am Post subject: |
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| Fuzzy Dunlop wrote: |
Does anyone have that Dillon mute? How does it compare to the Best Brass mute? |
I bought one several weeks ago and can't recommend it enough. I just spent a week practicing two hours a day into it and it's in-tune and not too much resistance. The notes below the staff are just slightly sharp, but not enough to really bother you. At $35-ish, it's a no-brainer compared to the Best Brass one. |
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