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kloodinn
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 07, 2012 7:56 am    Post subject: Van Laar flugelhorns? Reply with quote

any comments about Van Laar flugelhorns? How do they compare to Adams? I play in the flugelhorn section of a large windband, have to play a lot in the high register, fast technical stuff, no solo work. what would you recommend?
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 07, 2012 9:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have no experience playing one in an ensemble. I have tried them, and I know that they are very fine instruments.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 07, 2012 1:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Both brands make excellent flugelhorns, but they both play a bit diffent.
Personally my preference goes to the Van Laar.
But I suggest you try them both out yourself, like I would suggest to anyone buying a new horn.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 07, 2012 3:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I personally play on a Yamaha, but have tried The Adams Flugelhorn out at Trent Austin's Brass Shop, and If I had the cash I would go with the Adams Flugelhorn. An incredibly Sweet and Warm Dark Buttery Jazz Sound! is the best way I can describe it . . . .

Trent also has a sweet sounding doubler's Flugelhorn at a very reasonable price! give him a call at Austin Custom Brass

Good Luck!

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 08, 2012 9:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm from Holland, and I would choose v. Laar flugelhorns over Adams anytime. I see way more Van Laar flugels than Adams around in my part of the country.
For the record, I do not own any horns of Adams or Van Laar (have two Courtois flugels), but if I ever need a high-end flugel, it will be a Van Laar B2.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 08, 2012 10:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks everybody for your replies. I think I will go to Hub Van Laar's place and test a few of his flugelhorns.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 08, 2012 10:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The OIRAM designed by Mario sounds exceptional on every recording or video I've ever heard (regardless of the player ).
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 08, 2012 2:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I think I will go to Hub Van Laar's place and test a few of his flugelhorns.

Then you will get a warm welcome like all of their customer do.
That's surely something that the people at Adams can work on.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 08, 2012 3:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kloodinn wrote:
thanks everybody for your replies. I think I will go to Hub Van Laar's place and test a few of his flugelhorns.


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 08, 2012 4:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

IMO, both are great products. For my personal taste, the Adams suits me a little bit better.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 12, 2012 6:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

kloodinn wrote:
thanks everybody for your replies. I think I will go to Hub Van Laar's place and test a few of his flugelhorns.


Be sure to let us know how you get on...

I own his Oiram and I cannot find words to adequately describe how good it is. It blends...the valves are fantastic and contribute to a very precise horn. The sound is simply beautiful...to say nothing about how the horn looks...

If a Hub Van Laar doesn't exceed your needs I would be amazed.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 13, 2012 11:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

wiemelen wrote:
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I think I will go to Hub Van Laar's place and test a few of his flugelhorns.

Then you will get a warm welcome like all of their customer do.
That's surely something that the people at Adams can work on.


FWIW - I just received customer service from Adams that was above and beyond anything I have received in the past. Adams is a great company in my experience.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 14, 2012 6:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks like an Adams trade-in for Hun Van Laar, and for lower price.
http://www.vanlaartrumpets.nl/occasions/en/223/adams-custom
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 14, 2012 11:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Looks like an Adams trade-in for Hun Van Laar, and for lower price.

Well everybody has his/her own preferences. Like I said before, both brands deliver excellent products.
BTW ... I've also seen 2nd hand HvL horns in the Adams store in the past


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FWIW - I just received customer service from Adams that was above and beyond anything I have received in the past. Adams is a great company in my experience.

Glad to hear that. Maybe to clarify my earlier statement, my "less positive" experiences are absolutely NOT refering to the quality of their products or work which are always good. In my humble opinion, their own store in Ittervoort (Holland) just doesn't score that well in returning mails (never returned one of some I wrote), giving correct information on the telephone or helping you out if you're looking for something that not directly available from their shop. But hey, that's their loss. In all those cases I ended up buying things somewhere else.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 01, 2012 4:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was fortunate to borrow a Hub Van Laar Oriam Ack flugel and play it for a year. It is truly a work of art and a beautiful horn. I enjoyed the timbre and found the sound dark, but full of color. I associated this with the lack of bracing and very free and open feeling it has. I was very impressed. It is not the darkest horn, as I find my Kanstul made French Besson is darker.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 05, 2012 9:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have been at the Van Laar workshop today and tested a few of their flugelhorns: B1, R1, B2, R2, R3 and Oiram Ack. They are all very fine instruments, very precise, very easy to play. Finally I ordered an Oiram Ack in raw brass. I have been playing a Besson Meha for almost 20 years and used to think that this is a pretty decent flugelhorn. I also tried a Kanstul 1525 recently and thought it was quite good. Now the Kanstul seems rather disappointing and the Besson Meha is just a bad joke. All the Van Laars are very precise, great valves, very easy to play, in all registers, very good control of the sound. Playing the Oiram Ack is pure bliss. I can't wait to get mine (in 4 months).
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2012 7:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

kloodinn wrote:
I have been at the Van Laar workshop today and tested a few of their flugelhorns: B1, R1, B2, R2, R3 and Oiram Ack. They are all very fine instruments, very precise, very easy to play. Finally I ordered an Oiram Ack in raw brass. I have been playing a Besson Meha for almost 20 years and used to think that this is a pretty decent flugelhorn. I also tried a Kanstul 1525 recently and thought it was quite good. Now the Kanstul seems rather disappointing and the Besson Meha is just a bad joke. All the Van Laars are very precise, great valves, very easy to play, in all registers, very good control of the sound. Playing the Oiram Ack is pure bliss. I can't wait to get mine (in 4 months).


I am pleased for you...you have found a flugel that will satisfy....

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 16, 2013 8:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

How much did your Oiram cost? They don't post prices on their page... Which kinda scares me...
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 16, 2013 1:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jazzman99 wrote:
How much did your Oiram cost? They don't post prices on their page... Which kinda scares me...


about 2800 Euro
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 16, 2013 2:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a friend with a MINT B2 Van Laar for sale. IF your interested, pm me.
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