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razeontherock
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 14, 2014 1:56 pm    Post subject: Another vid to pick apart Reply with quote

I absolutely love Eric Miyashiro's sound. Usually when I hear guys with great high register, I have to think to myself "yeah but he's no Maynard." I won't say that if I close my eyes I hear Maynard, but he's the only guy I've heard that has a similar sound quality upstairs.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lsH6v908BVc

Even so, at 4:00 it gives a good view of Eric's initial placement, and it's just painful for me to watch. It reminds me of my struggles in about 10th - 11th grade, maybe younger too, with the kind of winding up I would do trying to stick the mouthpiece on my face. Unfortunately I never had that HUGE high Bb, but I'd be curious to hear what you guys can see Eric doing right, as well as what can be done to try to stop that type of "sneer" which looks to me like it pulls chop out and away from the mouthpiece.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 14, 2014 2:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have an appt. at 4:00. Maybe someone will record it?
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 14, 2014 4:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Short of telepathy, how do you expect anyone to know which recording you are talking about?

Unless, of course, Eric Miyashiro made only ONE recording ever.

Edit: Now that you've fixed the link:

Link


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 14, 2014 6:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can't guess what video you're referring to, but in the ones I've seen he looks like a very stable and correct IIIB.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 16, 2014 8:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree... I say Eric has the closest Maynard sound that I've heard yet... at least that I KNOW of........ but there's always that one guy somewhere in the obscure backwoods Okalona River Bottom Band that is a dead ringer for the Boss.. but just likes to play his trumpet for fun.. lol
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 17, 2014 11:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

With all due respect to Eric.......

Yes, he does sound very close to the Maynard from 1970 on (he sounds nothing like the Maynard of the 1950's.) Eric does seem to really beat his chops pretty hard. Anybody who has had the chance to get up close to him (especially after he's just finished playing) will marvel at the scars, indentations etc.

He no doubt presses very hard. He also plays a rim with the high spot set way back from the inner edge, sort of a take on the old Neil Sanders rim. This rim really allows you to plow the mp into your chops without cutting them as much.

Eric is still a relatively young man, so far hes been able to play very hard material and do a very good job. As Reinhardt would say "time will tell" if he does indeed have any serious playing habits that will show up later in his career,

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 17, 2014 10:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

etc-etc wrote:
Short of telepathy, how do you expect anyone to know which recording you are talking about?

Unless, of course, Eric Miyashiro made only ONE recording ever.


Sheesh, post the url and we used to get an embedded video. Now, the link won't even post? Let's try this edit and see if it takes this time ...
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 17, 2014 11:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Instead of https: use http:

What a beautiful sound!

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 17, 2014 11:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

etc-etc wrote:
Instead of https: use http:


Yeah, I've seen that come up. I've done it that way and seen a link post, or no link post. Since whatever prompted this change I've never done that and had a vid embed. I have no idea what gives. Is it a Windows 7 thing? I'm on chrome, I doubt that's it?
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 17, 2014 11:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am using the same Windows 7 and Chrome. Chrome hides the "http" in the address bar.

However, when the link is copied from the address bar into TH, it is automatically pasted with "http". Not intuitive.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 19, 2014 9:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks like he's getting his legs set. A little bit of "finding the spot", but obviously it's working for him. What's the big deal?
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 10, 2014 9:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't know if it's even "a deal" at all, let alone a big one. That was kinda my point in posting it, to see what folks say. Here's a great recording of Mr Perfect Embouchure, and at the beginning Clark's going through all kinds of chop gyrations, kinda like my face feels trying to find the sweet spot sometimes:

http://www.eyeneer.com/video/jazz/oscar-peterson/blues-for-smedley

Incredible left-hand playing technique. I woulda just played the few flugel notes with the left and done the hard stuff with the right hand, but apparently he wanted more of a challenge?
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 11, 2014 1:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks to me like he's retrieving the lower lip . . .

Also, you can't play the flugel with the left hand and manipulate the valves at the same time


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 16, 2014 8:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mike Sailors wrote:
you can't play the flugel with the left hand and manipulate the valves at the same time



Why not? I played those same notes today, left hand only. It'd actually be harder for me to do it right hand only. (1525)


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 16, 2014 8:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do you have a left hand flugelhorn? Seems impossible since the finger hook would be on the bell which is to the right of the valve casing.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 16, 2014 11:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just tried to play my flugelhorn with only the left hand. It's not possible on my horn. Years ago I would play the trumpet (left hand) and the flugelhorn (right hand) at the same time. I didn't sound very good but the audience liked it, especially after a few drinks. I quit doing it for many reasons.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 18, 2014 12:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

And here I thought the forum was abandoned except for Mike and me I tried it again last night and actually did it right-handed, but it's still way easier for me left-handed. Oh well I guess that's what i get as a lefty learning to play right-handed instruments.
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