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Louise Finch Heavyweight Member
Joined: 10 Aug 2012 Posts: 5467 Location: Suffolk, England
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Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2014 11:55 am Post subject: |
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Hi Guys
Thank you very much for your very interesting replies.
I definitely do carry too much, but do frequently use straight, cup and harmon mutes in my brass band, and plunger and bucket for a Glenn Miller selection, so I can't really cut down on the amount of mutes.
My cleaning materials could definitely go in the cupboard
Thanks again.
Take Care
Lou _________________ Trumpets:
Yamaha 8335 Xeno II
Bach Strad 180ML/37
B&H Oxford
Kanstul F Besson C
Yamaha D and D/Eb
- James R New Custom 3Cs
Flugel:
Bach Strad 183 - Bach 3CFL
Cornets:
Yamaha Neo + Xeno
Bach Strad 184ML
B&H Imperial
- Kanstul Custom 3Cs |
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musicman0097 Heavyweight Member
Joined: 10 Jul 2012 Posts: 601 Location: SF Bay Area, California
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Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2014 1:55 pm Post subject: |
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For most of my gigs I use a Yamaha double case and a large zippered tote bag.
Case:
Horn (Depends on gig)
Small Accessory bag (Valve oil, pencils, tuner, clothes pins, small spare parts, slide oil, Tuning slide grease, flashdrive)
3 mouthpieces (Main and 2 spares)
If I need the picc, I can fit it on the side with my accessory bag)
Bag:
Any music I need
Cup, straight, and practice mute. (If I need more/different mutes I bring them)
2 big refillable water bottles
a few rags for oil
Any other random things that I need
If I need a few horns, I get the Bach Quad and fill that up. _________________ Matthew Porter
"There are no secrets to success. It is the result of preparation, hard work, learning from failure"- Colin Powell |
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trumpetera Heavyweight Member
Joined: 05 Nov 2005 Posts: 1210 Location: Gothenburg,Sweden
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Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2014 2:21 pm Post subject: |
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When going to work, And if the show is a on-horn-show, I use my trusty old RB single that was given to me by my dad when I was around 8,9 years old.
In it, there is the horn, practice mute doubling as a "bell-saver" in case of an accident, one or two mpc's, oil and my iPad mini.
Mind you, when I was a kid, I used to squeeze in a Bb, Arban's complete method and a bicycle pump into it!
A very forgiving bag..... _________________ Principal trumpet Gothenburg Opera Orchestra
Bach LT 37 Bb (Mr. Findleys old)
Bach Mt Vernon 1957 Bb
Bach NY ML 1943 vintage Bb
Very old YTR-6335
Bach/Malone/Lechner C
Malone-Bach 229 C
H.Ganter Bb
Schagerl Wienna (older model) C
Parker Natural |
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trptboy3 Veteran Member
Joined: 31 Jan 2009 Posts: 133 Location: Washington, DC
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Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2014 2:46 pm Post subject: |
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It's been my experience that inevitably if I didn't bring it, I needed it. Just last week I was subbing with a local group and considered leaving my piccolo at home. It was in another case from a different gig and I thought "there's no way I'll need picc for this gig..." I decided to bring it last minute. Guess what, I needed it for the gig!
Obviously this is just my policy for rehearsals. For the concerts I only bring what I need.
Rehearsals -
Brass Bags Quad case
Bb, C, Picc, Eb (maybe flugel, depending on gig)
Orchestral mouthpiece, piccolo mouthpiece, lead mouthpiece
4 or 5 pencils (there's always somebody who forgets to bring one)
1 or 2 K&M stands
straight, cup, plunger, harmon
Oils and grease
my warmup and fundamentals packet
Portable music stand in the trunk
Concerts -
Just the basics for the gig. _________________ Bach 37
Yamaha NYS2-YM
Kanstul 1520 Picc |
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GizB Veteran Member
Joined: 11 Jan 2005 Posts: 200
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Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2014 4:26 pm Post subject: |
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In my Mike Vax ProTec, for my funk/soul gig:
Bach Bb
Benge 5 flugel
5 Starr & Al Cass Oils
Dillon warmup mute
earplugs (haven't had to use 'em in my current band)
music reading glasses
In an $8 rolling suitcase I call The Sarcophagus:
2 Hamilton t'bone stands
2 hard-wired mics
Samson wireless
Boss VE-20 effects pedal
3" zippered music binder (just upgraded from 2" - lots of charts!)
Humes & Berg Swish-wah mute
Lowe's plunger mute
Wick adjustable cup
Real Book 6th Edition - in C
several lengths of mic cable
2 clear plastic music clips
I also carry the Manhassett Voyager stand with a pair of Stand-outs.
For my one legit gig of the year (Easter):
Bach C
Benge A/Bb pic
Al Cass valve oil
pencil
GizB |
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dr_trumpet Heavyweight Member
Joined: 22 Nov 2001 Posts: 2533 Location: Cope, IN
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Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2014 7:30 pm Post subject: |
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It depends.....sound familiar?
For the 4th gig with the orchestra, for example, I had the following with me and played them all:
Bb trumpet
C trumpet
E3L4
Kanstul Bb piccolo
All horns in my Bonna quad case with computer slot. The computer slot was filled with 2 mouthpiece packs; orchestral pieces, pops pieces (lots of movie stuff), E3L4 mouthpiece, piccolo mouthpiece. Stands for all horns except the Schilke (not supposed to put tuning bell horns on stands.
Mutes; Wick aluminum straight, Wick copper bottom straight, Wick Adj. Cup, Jo-Ral aluminum bubble, Wick soft mute, Wick piccolo mute, five mute rack stand attachment, music list, music folder.
This was a huge concert playing 25 works with orchestra.
For the upcoming Wagner series, I'll figure out which horn works, and then likely only take that C trumpet to the rehearsals.
I recently played a church job where all I needed was a Bb....so that was all I took. The first rehearsal, I had made sure to have the music in advance and to know what was going to be played, and how. For the service, it was Bb and that's it.
It just depends....... _________________ Dr. Albert L. Lilly, III DM
Artist/Clinician for Vincent Bach Trumpets (Conn-Selmer)
Principal Trumpet, Hendricks Symphony (Avon, IN)
Arranger/Composer; Lilly Music |
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jhopkins7 Veteran Member
Joined: 05 Feb 2010 Posts: 117 Location: SC
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Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2014 7:43 pm Post subject: |
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Triple ProTec bag...horns needed for gig (primarily Bb or C, picc and flugel). MPs and assorted mutes and music. Cleaning kit and valve oil in a zip lock bag, and a Hercules triple stand. Also small mat for spit venting.
I also have a couple of "go bags" for different gigs. For outdoors...clothespins, folding stand, sunglasses, Thermocell which is great for repelling bugs.
For rock/party band...mic and shield with batteries.
Always have the big triple, and grab the appropriate go bag for each gig. _________________ -Jon
Getzen Genesis 3003 Bb
Bach Strad MLV/72 Bb
Bach 229 C
Warburton mpcs |
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Louise Finch Heavyweight Member
Joined: 10 Aug 2012 Posts: 5467 Location: Suffolk, England
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Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2014 1:55 am Post subject: |
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trptboy3 wrote: | It's been my experience that inevitably if I didn't bring it, I needed it.
Hi
Very true!
All the best
Lou
Just last week I was subbing with a local group and considered leaving my piccolo at home. It was in another case from a different gig and I thought "there's no way I'll need picc for this gig..." I decided to bring it last minute. Guess what, I needed it for the gig!
Obviously this is just my policy for rehearsals. For the concerts I only bring what I need.
Rehearsals -
Brass Bags Quad case
Bb, C, Picc, Eb (maybe flugel, depending on gig)
Orchestral mouthpiece, piccolo mouthpiece, lead mouthpiece
4 or 5 pencils (there's always somebody who forgets to bring one)
1 or 2 K&M stands
straight, cup, plunger, harmon
Oils and grease
my warmup and fundamentals packet
Portable music stand in the trunk
Concerts -
Just the basics for the gig. |
_________________ Trumpets:
Yamaha 8335 Xeno II
Bach Strad 180ML/37
B&H Oxford
Kanstul F Besson C
Yamaha D and D/Eb
- James R New Custom 3Cs
Flugel:
Bach Strad 183 - Bach 3CFL
Cornets:
Yamaha Neo + Xeno
Bach Strad 184ML
B&H Imperial
- Kanstul Custom 3Cs |
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Louise Finch Heavyweight Member
Joined: 10 Aug 2012 Posts: 5467 Location: Suffolk, England
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Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2014 2:06 am Post subject: |
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Thanks very much for your interesting replies.
Sounds like there is maybe two main ways of dealing with all the gear we need to carry, my idea of carrying everything I could possibly need just in case, and never needing to re-pack it, only to replace water bottles, and the idea of re-packing each time to bring what you need.
I used to re-pack and bring only what I need for a gig, and managed to forget a tie on one occasion. Unbelievably it led to me leaving the band, as after 7 gigs in nine days, I couldn't believe the unreasonable attitude of the band leader, for my genuine mistake of forgetting a tie for the first and only occasion, telling me I'd let him and the band down etc., even though I had already apologised profusely for my mistake. I finished the gig and never went back to that band.
Since then, I've carried everything I could possibly need, just in case.
Take Care
Lou _________________ Trumpets:
Yamaha 8335 Xeno II
Bach Strad 180ML/37
B&H Oxford
Kanstul F Besson C
Yamaha D and D/Eb
- James R New Custom 3Cs
Flugel:
Bach Strad 183 - Bach 3CFL
Cornets:
Yamaha Neo + Xeno
Bach Strad 184ML
B&H Imperial
- Kanstul Custom 3Cs |
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Rapier232 Heavyweight Member
Joined: 16 Aug 2011 Posts: 1323 Location: Twixt the Moor and the Sea, UK
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Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2014 2:20 am Post subject: |
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I can beat forgetting a tie. I was helping out a local band at the Areas in Torquay. Driving down I was running through my mental checklist, Horn, yep. jacket, yep. White shirt, yep. Black trousers, erm. Bugger. We had a rehearsal booked before the contest, so I phoned the Sec. and said does the MD want me in black trousers or at the rehearsal? I was willing to go buy a pair. He chose rehearsal.
I felt a right pillock walking out onto the contest stage with the band immaculately turned out, and me wearing shorts with a band jacket, white shirt and tie. _________________ "Nearly as good as I need to be. Not nearly as good as I want to be".
Smith-Watkins Bb
Will Spencer Bb
Eclipse Flugel
Smith Watkins K2 Cornet
JP152 C Trumpet
Besson Bugle |
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Louise Finch Heavyweight Member
Joined: 10 Aug 2012 Posts: 5467 Location: Suffolk, England
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Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2014 2:47 am Post subject: |
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Rapier232 wrote: | I can beat forgetting a tie. I was helping out a local band at the Areas in Torquay. Driving down I was running through my mental checklist, Horn, yep. jacket, yep. White shirt, yep. Black trousers, erm. Bugger. We had a rehearsal booked before the contest, so I phoned the Sec. and said does the MD want me in black trousers or at the rehearsal? I was willing to go buy a pair. He chose rehearsal.
I felt a right pillock walking out onto the contest stage with the band immaculately turned out, and me wearing shorts with a band jacket, white shirt and tie. |
Hi
Easily done. Sounds like the MD had his priorities right. Far more important to have players at the rehearsal than worrying about clothes.
Take Care
Lou _________________ Trumpets:
Yamaha 8335 Xeno II
Bach Strad 180ML/37
B&H Oxford
Kanstul F Besson C
Yamaha D and D/Eb
- James R New Custom 3Cs
Flugel:
Bach Strad 183 - Bach 3CFL
Cornets:
Yamaha Neo + Xeno
Bach Strad 184ML
B&H Imperial
- Kanstul Custom 3Cs |
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Dale Proctor Heavyweight Member
Joined: 26 May 2005 Posts: 9365 Location: Heart of Dixie
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Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2014 5:18 am Post subject: |
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Louise Finch wrote: | ,...my idea of carrying everything I could possibly need just in case, and never needing to re-pack it... |
That's the main reason I bought the triple case - enough room for what I use most of the time, so when I go to the rehearsals for different bands during the same week, I just have to grab the same case. No switching stuff from case to case every night or two. When things are slack and I don't need all that stuff, I do transfer just what I'm using into a single case to cut down on the weight I'm lugging around. _________________ "Brass bands are all very well in their place - outdoors and several miles away ." - Sir Thomas Beecham |
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ghelbig Heavyweight Member
Joined: 27 May 2011 Posts: 908 Location: Reno, NV
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Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2014 8:30 am Post subject: What to carry it all in? |
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A while back someone posted pictures of the bag they used to carry all their stuff in.
It was relatively inexpensive, and I thought it was from a camping supply store. It wasn't a tool bag.
I can not find that thread - can someone remind me of what bag it was?
Gary. |
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Andy Del Heavyweight Member
Joined: 30 Jun 2005 Posts: 2665 Location: sunny Sydney, Australia
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Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2014 2:39 pm Post subject: |
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Louise Finch wrote: | I couldn't believe the unreasonable attitude of the band leader, for my genuine mistake of forgetting a tie for the first and only occasion, telling me I'd let him and the band down etc., even though I had already apologised profusely for my mistake. I finished the gig and never went back to that band. |
That's the best thing that band leader ever did for you! It got you out of there.
Who needs that sort of rubbish?
story time...
A few years ago, I picked up the Bass Trombonist for a gig, about 2 hours out of town. In my nicely ironed white, he looked at me, and went back upstairs to change his black shirt. Once at the gig, at 6.30pm, we walked, respondent in white shirts into a sea of all black...
Into the bat mobile, er, car. OK! It's the cheese wagon...(Renault Kangoo) and down the road to find a single store open. A women's clothing shop... with bargain bin of men's shirts for $10 each. I still have two left.
Mistakes happen, but there is nowhere like a British brass band to harp and whine about the colour of one's socks!
Think I'll wear my Ghandi tux tonight!
cheers
Andy _________________ so many horns, so few good notes... |
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RandyTX Heavyweight Member
Joined: 25 Mar 2010 Posts: 5299 Location: Central Texas
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Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2014 9:21 pm Post subject: |
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Andy Del wrote: | Mistakes happen, but there is nowhere like a British brass band to harp and whine about the colour of one's socks! |
Especially since most brass bands seem to have uniforms that make Captain Kangaroo look stylish.
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Louise Finch Heavyweight Member
Joined: 10 Aug 2012 Posts: 5467 Location: Suffolk, England
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Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2014 3:08 am Post subject: |
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Andy Del wrote: | Louise Finch wrote: | I couldn't believe the unreasonable attitude of the band leader, for my genuine mistake of forgetting a tie for the first and only occasion, telling me I'd let him and the band down etc., even though I had already apologised profusely for my mistake. I finished the gig and never went back to that band. |
That's the best thing that band leader ever did for you! It got you out of there.
Who needs that sort of rubbish?
Hi Andy
Very true!
story time...
A few years ago, I picked up the Bass Trombonist for a gig, about 2 hours out of town. In my nicely ironed white, he looked at me, and went back upstairs to change his black shirt. Once at the gig, at 6.30pm, we walked, respondent in white shirts into a sea of all black...
Oops!
Into the bat mobile, er, car. OK! It's the cheese wagon...(Renault Kangoo) and down the road to find a single store open. A women's clothing shop... with bargain bin of men's shirts for $10 each. I still have two left.
Mistakes happen, but there is nowhere like a British brass band to harp and whine about the colour of one's socks!
Great story, and thanks very much for sharing.
It was a dance band in which it happened to me, but I know what you mean about British Brass Bands. I remember one gig, when the Soprano player mistakenly turned up in beige shoes, not noticing that he had put the wrong pair on. He did the gig in his socks, with the band advertising board in front of him. Another time, for some reason my band master decided that I should have been wearing "stockings". It was an outside summer gig, and like most of the women, I was wearing a skirt with bare legs. Must be my lack of a tan. I too had the board in front of my legs.
Think I'll wear my Ghandi tux tonight!
Sounds a good idea
cheers
Andy
Take Care
Lou |
_________________ Trumpets:
Yamaha 8335 Xeno II
Bach Strad 180ML/37
B&H Oxford
Kanstul F Besson C
Yamaha D and D/Eb
- James R New Custom 3Cs
Flugel:
Bach Strad 183 - Bach 3CFL
Cornets:
Yamaha Neo + Xeno
Bach Strad 184ML
B&H Imperial
- Kanstul Custom 3Cs |
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chuck in ny Heavyweight Member
Joined: 23 Sep 2006 Posts: 3597 Location: New York
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Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2014 6:23 am Post subject: |
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lou
this is reminiscent of the contents of a woman's purse, carrying a spare tourniquet and so forth.
my wife has continual worries, do i have this or that with me. i patiently explain to her each time that my system is to put my pants on, and then i will have my wallet and keys.
the situation drastically changes when working for pay. at that point a full tool kit is in order to fulfill your responsibilities. |
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TrumpetMD Heavyweight Member
Joined: 22 Oct 2008 Posts: 2416 Location: Maryland
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Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2014 6:30 am Post subject: |
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chuck in ny wrote: | ... carrying a spare tourniquet and so forth. |
Not a bad idea. You never know when you might blow out a neck artery while going for that DHC.
Mike _________________ Bach Stradivarius 43* Trumpet (1974), Bach 6C Mouthpiece.
Bach Stradivarius 184 Cornet (1988), Yamaha 13E4 Mouthpiece
Olds L-12 Flugelhorn (1969), Yamaha 13F4 Mouthpiece.
Plus a few other Bach, Getzen, Olds, Carol, HN White, and Besson horns. |
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Louise Finch Heavyweight Member
Joined: 10 Aug 2012 Posts: 5467 Location: Suffolk, England
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Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2014 7:20 am Post subject: |
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TrumpetMD wrote: | Thanks to Lou -- Following her suggestion, I recently purchased a Protec trombone mute bag to hold my mutes and other stuff.
Mike |
Hi Mike
You are very welcome.
I really hope that you like your Protec trombone mute bag.
All the best
Lou _________________ Trumpets:
Yamaha 8335 Xeno II
Bach Strad 180ML/37
B&H Oxford
Kanstul F Besson C
Yamaha D and D/Eb
- James R New Custom 3Cs
Flugel:
Bach Strad 183 - Bach 3CFL
Cornets:
Yamaha Neo + Xeno
Bach Strad 184ML
B&H Imperial
- Kanstul Custom 3Cs |
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talbotdc New Member
Joined: 27 Mar 2011 Posts: 5 Location: USAG Humphreys, South Korea
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Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2014 5:20 am Post subject: |
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Digital Recorder: Awesome tool
I got one 6 months ago and keep it in my case now to record all the practices. I can play back the music at home, critique my playing, and play along with the "band". |
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