Joined: 10 Oct 2006 Posts: 1169 Location: Silver Spring, MD
Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2014 7:14 pm Post subject:
Wow, that guy is a monster player and the whole band is too. Particularly nice to hear perfect time throughout the band. Those aren't alto horns, they're oval euphoniums and those two players are fantastic.
Watching another video of Vlado Kumpan I can see that his right cheek puffs but his corners are both firm. Not a problem... obviously!
I agree with you Doug, both Vlado and his band sound really great.
I´m from Germany and Vlado is pretty popular over here, most brass players know him.
I think he looks like a IIIA.
I know he´s using a 3C for everything and his gigs usually last a couple hours of many high notes, that would be tough for a IIIB like myself..
those are oval euphoniums, which are pretty much garbage horns, which makes those guys even better players. If they were on good instruments, even more WOW! I mean, rotor valves? We have better technology now!
LOL
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Those aren't Wagner tubas. Wagner tubas are played with French horn mouthpieces. These are being played with trombone or euphonium mouthpieces. They do look like Wagner tubas though.
Joined: 22 Aug 2007 Posts: 478 Location: Hamilton, Montana
Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2014 2:02 pm Post subject:
Here is Vlado playing Maria.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wux0Yi3u9TM
It sounds similar to the arrangement Arturo did on his album which is a tribute to a lot of great trumpet players from the past. Arturo is a huge admirer of Maynard.....but who isn't.
Vlado looks IIIA to me but I've been wrong too many times to say for sure.
trumpet42761 wrote
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I´m from Germany and Vlado is pretty popular over here, most brass players know him.
John, I read that Vlado is from Slovakia and went to the Conservatory at Bratislava. I know that the history of the region has been affected by many groups of people: Slovaks, Czechs, Germans, Hungarians, etc. It sounds like they are speaking German. Is that right?
Earlier when I said they sound like a polka band on steroids I meant that as a compliment. I've played in a few polka bands during Oktoberfest and they weren't this good.
Man you can really hear how great he sounds there. Notice how when he returns to the low range from an extended period of upper register playing, he still sounds free and resonant. I suspect that speaks to proper mechanics.
Smaller ensemble but he's still got those 2 oval euphoniums
Joined: 22 Aug 2007 Posts: 478 Location: Hamilton, Montana
Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2014 11:51 pm Post subject:
I watched Vlado Kumpan on that first video a couple times and I think he's missing a couple of the back molars on his right side. I noticed it when he really smiles. I wonder if this is what causes that right side to puff.
Years ago I adjudicated a high school stage band festival at East Carolina. As I remember all the bands were there only for comments. A young black kid who played lead sounded great....strong Fs and Gs. Afterwards he came to talk to me and took out a dental appliance revealing that he was missing his front two upper teeth. He played without the appliance because he said it was easier. He asked what I thought of it. I told him he sounded great so don't worry about it. He was upstream and played very low on his upper lip. His setup visually reminded me of Cat Anderson. I wondered if he had been able to study with Doc what would Doc have said if he had several months to work with him. Or if he would have said the same thing as I.
Joined: 10 Oct 2006 Posts: 1169 Location: Silver Spring, MD
Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2014 8:49 am Post subject:
Vlado is definitely a classic IIIA doing everything right.
I've played some of those oval baritones and tenor horns... they sound nice, but usually have horrible intonation and some low notes feel strange.
Hey John,
Vlado can speak German but I don´t know which language they speak in the band since most players are from Czech etc.
I think Polka music can sound very primitive if it is played bad and it is pretty hard to play it as good as Vlado and his band. In Polka music people tend to phrase some things a bit different and if you listen to Vlado´s band, everybody does this perfect in time.
I´ve also played in a few polka bands that weren´t good at all and that is not half the fun it is with a good band, but I think this applies to every kind of music.
Vlado is definitely a classic IIIA doing everything right.
I've played some of those oval baritones and tenor horns... they sound nice, but usually have horrible intonation and some low notes feel strange.
Not quite everything Doug.....
Watch very closely and you'll see his tongue penetrate between his teeth. Especially on initial inhalations.
Joined: 06 Feb 2002 Posts: 2347 Location: Santa Cruz County, CA
Posted: Thu Nov 27, 2014 12:30 am Post subject:
razeontherock wrote:
And did you trombonists see that - 1 trombone and 6 trumpets :P
As an occasional trombonist, I saw two trombones sitting on stands -- it appeared the tuba player doubled on bass trombone and the Bb tenor horn player doubled on tenor trombone.
That said, 6 trumpets and 3 trombones are still favorable odds. _________________ J. Notso Nieuwguyski
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