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solo soprano
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 15, 2014 8:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bike&ed,

In order to play a DHC on the trumpet the wind has to hit the lips at such a speed that will cause them to vibrate at 1,906.61 times per second.

Or, drop the octave and to play a high C - raise the tongue 3/16 of a an inch and blow with 14 pounds of wind speed.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 15, 2014 9:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

solo soprano wrote:
Bike&ed,

In order to play a DHC on the trumpet the wind has to hit the lips at such a speed that will cause them to vibrate at 1,906.61 times per second.

Or, drop the octave and to play a high C - raise the tongue 3/16 of a an inch and blow with 14 pounds of wind speed.


Thanks, I got my number by looking for the frequency of Bb7 on the web. Your number is close to what was listed for Bb6. Bb7 is considered DHC on at least 1 trumpet educational website that I found. Perhaps my nomenclature is incorrect, but the principle remains the same. This is about the only thing I can imagine the OP's quote meant, as the physical techniques everyone uses to play DHC are wildly disparate...
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 15, 2014 9:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can think of one way that absolutely no one uses to successfully play a Double High C - arguing about how to do it on the Internet...
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 15, 2014 9:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

John Mohan wrote:
I can think of one way that absolutely no one uses to successfully play a Double High C - arguing about how to do it on the Internet...


That's awesome, probably why you play it a LOT more assuredly then most of us!
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 15, 2014 11:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

solo soprano wrote:
Bike&ed,

In order to play a DHC on the trumpet the wind has to hit the lips at such a speed that will cause them to vibrate at 1,906.61 times per second.

Or, drop the octave and to play a high C - raise the tongue 3/16 of a an inch and blow with 14 pounds of wind speed.


My goodness, is that information accurate? Who the heck has time to figure this stuff out?! Ha ha
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 15, 2014 12:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bike&ed wrote:
John Mohan wrote:
I can think of one way that absolutely no one uses to successfully play a Double High C - arguing about how to do it on the Internet...


That's awesome, probably why you play it a LOT more assuredly then most of us!




Well, I have to admit, I probably would have been in trouble had the Internet existed back when I was putting in the time required to develop. All I had to resist were a couple of Atari Games (LOVED Asteroids).

Oh gosh, curiosity just got the best of me and now I'm in trouble:

http://www.freeasteroids.org/
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 16, 2014 1:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think we can agree when it comes to training yourself to play DHC, don't talk about it, "JUST DO IT!"
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 16, 2014 5:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

John Mohan wrote:
bike&ed wrote:
John Mohan wrote:
I can think of one way that absolutely no one uses to successfully play a Double High C - arguing about how to do it on the Internet...


That's awesome, probably why you play it a LOT more assuredly then most of us!




Well, I have to admit, I probably would have been in trouble had the Internet existed back when I was putting in the time required to develop. All I had to resist were a couple of Atari Games (LOVED Asteroids).

Oh gosh, curiosity just got the best of me and now I'm in trouble:

http://www.freeasteroids.org/


http://www.freeinvaders.org/welcome.php
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 23, 2014 10:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

oxleyk wrote:
John Mohan wrote:
bike&ed wrote:
John Mohan wrote:
I can think of one way that absolutely no one uses to successfully play a Double High C - arguing about how to do it on the Internet...


That's awesome, probably why you play it a LOT more assuredly then most of us!




Well, I have to admit, I probably would have been in trouble had the Internet existed back when I was putting in the time required to develop. All I had to resist were a couple of Atari Games (LOVED Asteroids).

Oh gosh, curiosity just got the best of me and now I'm in trouble:

http://www.freeasteroids.org/


http://www.freeinvaders.org/welcome.php


Oh God - thanks Kent. I might as well sell my horns now.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 02, 2015 4:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

For me, if depends on the player. I have particular difficulty playing in the upper register, but I have friends that can play a double C in their sleep.
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