Leadpipe for Bach EL189 Eb/D

Norman Courtois · Posted: Mon May 04, 2015 9:36 pm Post subject: Leadpipe for Bach EL189 Eb/D

Anyone knows or have tried any aftermarket leadpipe for this horn? Are they better? Expensive?

RandyTX · Posted: Mon May 04, 2015 9:45 pm Post subject:

One common mod is to simply replace the last little piece of tubing going into the valve block with a slightly larger bore one, which opens them up a bit if they aren't the XL bore already. I don't know that I've seen aftermarket leadpipes specifically for that model.
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brianj · Veteran Member Joined: 15 Apr 2006 Posts: 239

Hi

I have this model but it was put together by Dr Valve and it has a Malone lead pipe (or at least a copy of a Malone leadpipe in that hidden reversed style) so they must be available, or at least were available at one time anyway.

I hope this helps

brian jones

James Becker · Posted: Tue May 05, 2015 6:02 am Post subject:

If what you're interested in is a one for one replacement without changing the tuning slide format we can help. We have a mouthpipe that works quite well on the Bach 189 Eb/D trumpet.

Should you want to convert to a Malone style format we can help you with that too.

In addition, if your Bach 189 has not had a valve alignment I'd strongly suggest you start there. Our blueprinting service can greatly improve the play ability of trumpets without necessarily changing major components. I'm confident doing one or both will render a better playing trumpet for you.

Drop me an email at jbecker@osmun.com or phone the shop at 978-823-0580 and I can answer any questions you may have.

I look forward to hearing from you soon.
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jvand678 · Posted: Tue May 05, 2015 7:33 am Post subject:

I replaced mine with the leadpipe and crooks from the ytr 9636. The s design gives you a lot more shaped pipe to work with. Mine ended up working quite well and the cost was relatively low. I will say that mine doesn't behave quite as large as it used to, so know that it will have some tradeoffs; but in general it is much more nimble and the intonation was greatly improved.

I think the pipe assembly was under 100 and the crooks were around 60 a piece. You'll need one for D and one for Eb.

best,
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James Becker · Posted: Tue May 05, 2015 10:40 am Post subject:

Yes Joe, the Yamaha serpentine Eb leadpipe taper is quite a bit narrower with much less volume than a Bach taper which would explain why the sound is not quite as big. I suppose it would depend on what setting it will be used.
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Irving · Heavyweight Member Joined: 11 Feb 2003 Posts: 1887

I know that Kanstul also sells their version of the S shaped lead pipe and crooks for it's own Eb/D trumpet. Maybe James would know if this lead pipe would be a viable alternative to the Yamaha. I think that the cost is a fraction of what the Yamaha would run you.