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Blueblue Veteran Member
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Posted: Mon May 11, 2015 10:13 pm Post subject: What is your favorite Blues/Jazz lesson book? |
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What helped you out in the beginning and still is:
your favorite Blues/Jazz lesson book?
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tommy t. Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Tue May 12, 2015 8:20 am Post subject: |
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I've been playing for about 60 years.
My favorite lessons and workout material have always been Louie, Roy Eldridge, Dizzy and Miles. (And, my Dad.)
Frankly, nothing in writing has contributed much.
It's 99.99% context and sound.
The other 0.01% is getting out and trying it in public.
I have method books, but they are material with notes -- OK to have something to practice from, but jazz is notes with feelings and I've never seen feelings put down in manuscript very well.
Tommy T. _________________ Actually, I hate music. I just do this for the money. |
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solo soprano Heavyweight Member
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trumpetdiva1 Heavyweight Member
Joined: 22 May 2002 Posts: 1423 Location: Indiana
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Posted: Tue May 12, 2015 7:10 pm Post subject: |
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What helped me out the most in the beginning were lessons with John McNeil.
Here’s the lesson:
Turn to page 74 in Aebersold’s Volume 1 or any recording of the twelve-bar blues. In Aebersold’s book, this would be Track 7, Blues in Key of Bb Concert. Here are some exercises taken from my lesson notes with John McNeil to apply to this page:
-Approach root, 3rd, 5th from a half-step below (example for root: C7: with b as a pick-up eighth note before the first bar and c on the & of 4 and hold until the & of 3 and play e on the fourth beat). 1-2-3-b-c (1-2-3 &)-e(4)-f(&)....
-Approach root, 3rd, 5th from a half-step above using the same rhythm
-Approach root, 3rd, 5th, from 2 half-steps below (example for root: pick-up before first bar: 1-2-3-a -b-c (eight notes; c as & 1-2-3), d (&)-e(4)-f(&)…
-Approach root, 3rd, 5th from 2 half-steps above, same rhythm as below
-Approach root, 3rd, 5th, from 1/2 step above, 1/2 step below, with rhythm same as last example.
Practice the 3rd a lot and the 5th as well. Continue to go through other Blues keys with Track 8, Blues in Key of F Concert.
Janell _________________ Janell Carter
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Listen to this sample: Michael Haydn Concerto for Trumpet - II (Allegro) -
http://tinyurl.com/hgzhq23
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Billy B Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Wed May 13, 2015 5:53 am Post subject: |
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trumpetdiva1 wrote: | What helped me out the most in the beginning were lessons with John McNeil.
Here’s the lesson:
Turn to page 74 in Aebersold’s Volume 1 or any recording of the twelve-bar blues. In Aebersold’s book, this would be Track 7, Blues in Key of Bb Concert. Here are some exercises taken from my lesson notes with John McNeil to apply to this page:
-Approach root, 3rd, 5th from a half-step below (example for root: C7: with b as a pick-up eighth note before the first bar and c on the & of 4 and hold until the & of 3 and play e on the fourth beat). 1-2-3-b-c (1-2-3 &)-e(4)-f(&)....
-Approach root, 3rd, 5th from a half-step above using the same rhythm
-Approach root, 3rd, 5th, from 2 half-steps below (example for root: pick-up before first bar: 1-2-3-a -b-c (eight notes; c as & 1-2-3), d (&)-e(4)-f(&)…
-Approach root, 3rd, 5th from 2 half-steps above, same rhythm as below
-Approach root, 3rd, 5th, from 1/2 step above, 1/2 step below, with rhythm same as last example.
Practice the 3rd a lot and the 5th as well. Continue to go through other Blues keys with Track 8, Blues in Key of F Concert.
Janell |
This.
I would add "Patterns For Jazz Improvisation" by Jerry Coker. _________________ Bill Bergren |
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MiloTheGreat Veteran Member
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Posted: Sat May 23, 2015 11:53 am Post subject: |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XIcsTr93AiQ
Gerard Presencer is killing it for me. This video is in response to some of his teachings in his modern method. _________________ Smith Watkins, Mike Lovatt studio.
Schagerl Apredato, James Morrison.
Schagerl Gansch Vienna,
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Matthew Anklan Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Sat May 23, 2015 12:41 pm Post subject: |
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Listening, transcribing, and the ideas shared above are my favorites, and have proven to be the most helpful tools in my learning. To answer your question directly, here are the books that I've used/loved the most over the years:
1) Trumpetology by Pat Harbison
(I only began seriously pursuing jazz when I was a junior in college. This book was very helpful in learning how to play with a rhythm section and in getting some fundamentals in jazz together.)
2) Amazing Phrasing by Dennis Taylor and Steve Herrman
(Lots of fun practice ideas.)
3) 28 Modern Jazz Trumpet Solos, Books 1 & 2 by Ken Slone
(Lots of great transcriptions of solos by the masters)
4) Bobby Shew's Exercises and Etudes
(Jazz idioms and fundamental harmonic sequences presented as trumpet exercises.)
5) Creative Jazz Improvisation by Scott D. Reeves
(Many of the exercises are correlated to Jamey Aebersold play alongs.)
6) Jazz Keyboard Harmony by Phil DeGreg
(This book is the most important one on the list for me. Learning some basics of jazz piano and being able to comp any tune has been an invaluable skill throughout my career.)
Listen, transcribe, and shed every day. Have fun! _________________ Matthew Anklan
www.matthewanklan.com
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TrumpetMD Heavyweight Member
Joined: 22 Oct 2008 Posts: 2412 Location: Maryland
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Posted: Sat May 23, 2015 1:14 pm Post subject: Re: What is your favorite Blues/Jazz lesson book? |
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Blueblue wrote: | What helped you out in the beginning and still is:
your favorite Blues/Jazz lesson book? |
Great question. To clarify, we're not being asked what is the *best* book, but which book helped us the most.
For me, it's Jamey Aebersold, Volumes 1, 2, and 3.
This got me started learning about jazz chords, jazz scales, jazz patterns, how to memorize songs, how to listen and transcribe, etc.
Other books I've spent time a lot of time with include Jerry Coker's Patterns for Jazz, Emile DeCosmo's Polytonal Rhythm Series, and Jamey Aebersold's Jazz Handbook.
Mike _________________ Bach Stradivarius 43* Trumpet (1974), Bach 6C Mouthpiece.
Bach Stradivarius 184 Cornet (1988), Yamaha 13E4 Mouthpiece
Olds L-12 Flugelhorn (1969), Yamaha 13F4 Mouthpiece.
Plus a few other Bach, Getzen, Olds, Carol, HN White, and Besson horns. |
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take2 Regular Member
Joined: 20 Jan 2011 Posts: 68 Location: Watertown, MA
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Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2015 1:10 pm Post subject: |
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trumpetdiva1 wrote: |
-Approach root, 3rd, 5th from a half-step below (example for root: C7: with b as a pick-up eighth note before the first bar and c on the & of 4 and hold until the & of 3 and play e on the fourth beat). 1-2-3-b-c (1-2-3 &)-e(4)-f(&)....
-Approach root, 3rd, 5th from a half-step above using the same rhythm
-Approach root, 3rd, 5th, from 2 half-steps below (example for root: pick-up before first bar: 1-2-3-a -b-c (eight notes; c as & 1-2-3), d (&)-e(4)-f(&)…
-Approach root, 3rd, 5th from 2 half-steps above, same rhythm as below
-Approach root, 3rd, 5th, from 1/2 step above, 1/2 step below, with rhythm same as last example.
Practice the 3rd a lot and the 5th as well. Continue to go through other Blues keys with Track 8, Blues in Key of F Concert.
Janell |
Janell, I'm a little confused by your description. Any chance you can write it out and post it?
Thanks _________________ Jeff |
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