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Robert P Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Wed May 27, 2015 7:51 am Post subject: Ever heard of a black female classical player? |
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It occurred to me that I've never heard of a professional black female classical player either as part of an orchestra or as a soloist.
Doing an online search I find some jazz players, not any classical players. Anyone ever heard of one? |
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Turkle Heavyweight Member
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Robert P Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Wed May 27, 2015 1:00 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks for the reply. Are you aware of any video of her playing? I see her pic at the FB page for Cleveland Brassworks - it's the same as her faculty pic at the other link - but the only video I find of them on Youtube doesn't include her.
Still seems to be a rarity. What I was really thinking was someone playing in a pro orchestra and/or as a concertizing soloist. Apparently the number may well be -0-. |
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tanda Veteran Member
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Posted: Thu May 28, 2015 4:50 pm Post subject: |
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Are you looking specifically for a female black classical trumpet player? Or any female black classical musician? There are more than a few singers obviously. I've known some flutists, clarinet, a french hornist or 2. Can't think of any other than that though. Haven't ever come across a trumpeter that fits your description. |
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oliver king Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Thu May 28, 2015 5:10 pm Post subject: |
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Why? What's the point? |
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crzytptman Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Fri May 29, 2015 9:11 am Post subject: |
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#WAM. Or probably #WEM. _________________ Crazy Nate - Fine Yet Mellow Fellow
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Robert P Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Sat May 30, 2015 4:02 am Post subject: |
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tanda wrote: | Are you looking specifically for a female black classical trumpet player? . |
Trumpet specifically.
oliver king wrote: | Why? What's the point? |
Exactly as stated. Curiosity.
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Robert P Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Sat May 30, 2015 4:07 am Post subject: |
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crzytptman wrote: | #WAM. Or probably #WEM. |
Translation? |
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crzytptman Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Sat May 30, 2015 7:06 am Post subject: |
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Similar to #BAM. _________________ Crazy Nate - Fine Yet Mellow Fellow
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Robert P Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Sun May 31, 2015 6:10 pm Post subject: |
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crzytptman wrote: | Similar to #BAM. |
By translation I meant into English.
I gather it's roughly "I don't have anything useful to contribute to the topic but rather will sit in the corner amusing myself" |
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crzytptman Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Sun May 31, 2015 7:07 pm Post subject: |
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#BAM — Nicholas Payton aka The Savior of Archaic Pop _________________ Crazy Nate - Fine Yet Mellow Fellow
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razeontherock Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Sun May 31, 2015 8:07 pm Post subject: |
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I didn't realize Nicholas Payton was a black female classical trumpet player. |
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crzytptman Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Sun May 31, 2015 8:37 pm Post subject: |
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I was answering this post. I just didn't quote it.
Quote: | Are you looking specifically for a female black classical trumpet player? Or any female black classical musician? There are more than a few singers obviously. I've known some flutists, clarinet, a french hornist or 2. Can't think of any other than that though. Haven't ever come across a trumpeter that fits your description. |
_________________ Crazy Nate - Fine Yet Mellow Fellow
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bamajazzlady Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2015 9:13 am Post subject: |
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Robert P wrote: | crzytptman wrote: | Similar to #BAM. |
By translation I meant into English.
I gather it's roughly "I don't have anything useful to contribute to the topic but rather will sit in the corner amusing myself" |
#WAM is White American Music which is the archaic view many people have had and do have of classical music due to how classical is presented in the mainstream. _________________ "Nobody can go back and start a new beginning, but anyone can start today and make a new ending." - Maria Robinson |
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Robert P Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2015 6:17 pm Post subject: |
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bamajazzlady wrote: | Robert P wrote: | crzytptman wrote: | Similar to #BAM. |
By translation I meant into English.
I gather it's roughly "I don't have anything useful to contribute to the topic but rather will sit in the corner amusing myself" |
#WAM is White American Music which is the archaic view many people have had and do have of classical music due to how classical is presented in the mainstream. |
Curious that there are black women participating in other classical arenas - such as opera and on other instruments, but from what I've found so far there seem to be -0- black women who specialize professionally in classical trumpet. |
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ALaschiver Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2015 12:26 pm Post subject: black female player |
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Would a "transgender" black female, that was formally a male, count ?
Would she have to be named "Katlin"...how about just a "cross dressing"
male? Would that count? What about a hermaphrodite? Would that work?
Somewhere there is a player that would "match up"....somewhere.... |
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kehaulani Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2015 1:55 pm Post subject: |
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bamajazzlady wrote: | #WAM is White American Music which is the archaic view many people have had and do have of classical music due to how classical is presented in the mainstream. |
Thank you. It shouldn't have to be so difficult to get a straight answer.
(general comment) Now, to the acronym, white "American" music? I didn't know Beethoven had an honorary American citizenship. _________________ "If you don't live it, it won't come out of your horn." Bird
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oliver king Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2015 2:08 pm Post subject: |
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What does any of this have to do with being a better trumpet player? |
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ToyTrumpet Regular Member
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Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2015 3:09 pm Post subject: Re: black female player |
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ALaschiver wrote: | Would a "transgender" black female, that was formally a male, count ?
Would she have to be named "Katlin"...how about just a "cross dressing"
male? Would that count? What about a hermaphrodite? Would that work?
Somewhere there is a player that would "match up"....somewhere.... |
I don't know what you're trying to say, but it's definitely an inappropriate subject for this forum. |
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Robert P Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2015 9:05 am Post subject: Re: black female player |
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ALaschiver wrote: | Would a "transgender" black female, that was formally a male, count ?. |
Off the wall response but I'm pretty sure there are the exact same number of black transgender trumpeters in a professional orchestra or performing as a concertizing soloist as there are actual black females doing same. |
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