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trumpetplanet Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2013 7:09 am Post subject: |
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A completely invaluable excerpt from my first lesson with Mr Callet.
Me: My college teacher always told me to try to play with a big dark sound and yet he played C trumpet in the orchestra so he was naturally brighter...
JC: Why do you think people use the C trumpet? The B-flat has the most perfect intonation but with the C trumpet they can get a sharp attack with the wrong mouthpiece and the wrong embouchure - it makes it cleaner.
JC: If you listen to a good violinist the tone is sharp and clear and brilliant; the violin doesn't sound like a bass fiddle.
JC: Herbert Clarke said in 1920, "There's no such thing as a dark sound on a soprano cornet or trumpet", and if you try to make that then you're actually gonna make things harder for yourself. _________________ UK-based professional trumpeter.
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tptguy Jerome Callet Forum Moderator
Joined: 11 Nov 2001 Posts: 3380 Location: Philadelphia, Pa
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Posted: Fri Aug 23, 2013 1:28 am Post subject: |
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In a recent phone conversation, Jerry gave me a tip that greatly increased my understanding of what MSC has me working towards:
"The 'secret' is increasing the friction between the top lip and the top of the tongue, the forward wedge. Maintain this friction at all times."
He further pointed out, speaking of himself, "The wider the grip, the greater the friction. My upper lip grips the wedge of the tongue from corner to corner - at all times."
Best to all, Kyle |
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goldenhornplayer Heavyweight Member
Joined: 22 Nov 2001 Posts: 1123 Location: Winston-Salem, NC
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Posted: Sat Aug 24, 2013 5:27 am Post subject: |
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tptguy wrote: | In a recent phone conversation, Jerry gave me a tip that greatly increased my understanding of what MSC has me working towards:
"The 'secret' is increasing the friction between the top lip and the top of the tongue, the forward wedge. Maintain this friction at all times."
He further pointed out, speaking of himself, "The wider the grip, the greater the friction. My upper lip grips the wedge of the tongue from corner to corner - at all times."
Best to all, Kyle |
Thanks for sharing that recent tip from Jerry. No doubt, it's one worth sharing. Several have asked me what Jerry meant when he spoke of "grip". I always thought of it as contact or holding two things together, in this case the tongue against the top lip. To me, "friction" seems very appropriate in this context. And, as you point out, the greater the contact area the greater the grip or friction. Keep 'em coming, Kyle! _________________ Psalm 98:6 |
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tptguy Jerome Callet Forum Moderator
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Posted: Mon Aug 26, 2013 1:51 am Post subject: |
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Hey Ken, Here's another tip Jerry recently gave me that adds to the above. When he's playing most efficiently, "The upper teeth almost seem to vibrate with the sound." This concept, in combination with the above, greatly helps me feel the extremely solid grip needed to maximize inside-the-mouth compression - especially above the staff.
Best always, Kyle |
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goldenhornplayer Heavyweight Member
Joined: 22 Nov 2001 Posts: 1123 Location: Winston-Salem, NC
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Posted: Mon Aug 26, 2013 3:40 am Post subject: |
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Another good one! It makes sense due to the aperture being between the top of the tongue and the cutting edge of the top teeth. I'll try being sensitive to that but having lost my natural top front teeth (the reason I started with Jerry in the first place), I may not detect that as much as someone else. _________________ Psalm 98:6 |
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tptguy Jerome Callet Forum Moderator
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Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2014 12:50 am Post subject: |
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"Avoid lip movement. Conscious movement of the lips is always detrimental." |
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addseo1115 Regular Member
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Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2015 6:58 pm Post subject: |
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Wow, That is good suggestions. sbobet111 |
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roccotrumpetsiffredi Veteran Member
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Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2015 7:23 pm Post subject: |
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tptguy wrote: | In a recent phone conversation, Jerry gave me a tip that greatly increased my understanding of what MSC has me working towards:
"The 'secret' is increasing the friction between the top lip and the top of the tongue, the forward wedge. Maintain this friction at all times."
He further pointed out, speaking of himself, "The wider the grip, the greater the friction. My upper lip grips the wedge of the tongue from corner to corner - at all times."
Best to all, Kyle |
Is this tip related to the most extreme upper register position? Or does this relate to how the chops are at base level?
Thanks. |
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tptguy Jerome Callet Forum Moderator
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Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2015 11:59 pm Post subject: |
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Rocco,
"at ALL times"
As compulsively as Fr Horn players, we trumpeters gain comfort by distinguishing our low, mid, and upper register abilities. Most players count their laurels in just 2 of the 3. Yet in our hearts, we all know that a good trumpeter must control all 3 registers.
If you leave the upper register for a future epiphany it will rarely come. Start with distinct, solid grip (friction) in the low and mid registers and you lay the essential foundation for the upper 3rd.
How do you know if you are on track? As always, listen for SIGNIFICANTLY improved focus, power, intonation, and ease of tone. When you hit it, your ears will definitely know. If you aren't sure then call Jerry. He'll hear it immediately and put on the right track. |
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tptguy Jerome Callet Forum Moderator
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Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2015 12:19 am Post subject: |
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Rocco,
"at ALL times"
As compulsively as Fr Horn players, we trumpeters gain comfort by distinguishing our low, mid, and upper register abilities. Most players count their laurels in just 2 of the 3. Yet in our hearts, we all know that a good trumpeter must control all 3 registers.
If you leave the upper register for a future epiphany it will rarely come. Start with distinct, solid grip (friction) in the low and mid registers and you lay the essential foundation for the upper 3rd.
How do you know if you are on track? As always, listen for SIGNIFICANTLY improved focus, power, intonation, and ease of tone. When you hit it, your ears will definitely know. If you aren't sure then call Jerry. He'll hear it immediately and put on the right track. |
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roccotrumpetsiffredi Veteran Member
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Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2015 1:10 am Post subject: |
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tptguy wrote: | Rocco,
"at ALL times"
As compulsively as Fr Horn players, we trumpeters gain comfort by distinguishing our low, mid, and upper register abilities. Most players count their laurels in just 2 of the 3. Yet in our hearts, we all know that a good trumpeter must control all 3 registers.
If you leave the upper register for a future epiphany it will rarely come. Start with distinct, solid grip (friction) in the low and mid registers and you lay the essential foundation for the upper 3rd.
How do you know if you are on track? As always, listen for SIGNIFICANTLY improved focus, power, intonation, and ease of tone. When you hit it, your ears will definitely know. If you aren't sure then call Jerry. He'll hear it immediately and put on the right track. |
Thanks for the response, interesting. How is Jerry doing these days? I would like to have him listen to me over the phone. Can he really tell over the phone? That's pretty amazing. |
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trumpetplanet Heavyweight Member
Joined: 05 Feb 2012 Posts: 543 Location: Bristol, UK
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Posted: Sun Aug 16, 2015 8:24 am Post subject: |
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roccotrumpetsiffredi wrote: |
Thanks for the response, interesting. How is Jerry doing these days? I would like to have him listen to me over the phone. Can he really tell over the phone? That's pretty amazing. |
I've had lessons with him over the phone and he can always tell when things aren't as they should be. It doesn't take long for you to notice yourself once you've had some pointers. _________________ UK-based professional trumpeter.
Proponent of the Superchops/TCE.
https://neotericbrass.com/
https://trumpetpla.net/
https://tonguecontrolled.info/ |
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tptguy Jerome Callet Forum Moderator
Joined: 11 Nov 2001 Posts: 3380 Location: Philadelphia, Pa
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Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2015 3:01 am Post subject: |
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The primary hurdle in moving forward is learning to hear the important stuff - important for both musical and chop development. As TrumpetPlanet has pointed out, once Jerry gets you on track it's much, much easier to start diagnosing yourself (as well as others). But don't hesitate to call Jerry anytime you get off track. His ears will always get you pointed back in the right direction. And yes, he can do this extremely well over the phone. If you get in deep trouble then he'll want to see you in person. But the phone is a great tool for intermediate checkups. In the beginning, it's all about chops. But in the long run, it's all about ears. |
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