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Wallace
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 30, 2015 12:11 pm    Post subject: Book recommendation needed... Reply with quote

I have a student who is close to finishing up both the Clarke and Concone books.

Any recommendations for the next step for either technical or lyrical studies?

Thanks for your input. Trumpet is a more recent undertaking (post-college) for me, so literature is an area where I don't have a ton of background. I'm a tuba player by trade.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 30, 2015 12:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I recommend the Bordogni Vocalises

http://www.nyx.net/~dschwart/
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 30, 2015 12:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, first of all, no one ever "finishes" the Clarke book.
If he has truly played through the entire book using all of the different articulations and working each exercise and etude up to reasonable speed, then it is time to start back at study number one. There is, of course, a lifetime's worth of stuff that needs to be practiced in the Arban book, along with the Schlossberg book.
Walter Smith Top Tones could come after he has played all the characteristics studies in the Arban book, also the Vassily Brandt Orchestral Studies and Etudes.
And then of course, there is the Charlier book.
There is a wealth of material out there, these are just a few of the standard books that I could come up with off the top of my head.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 30, 2015 1:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

How about Goldman's Practical Studies? Charlier is always good for a sufficiently advanced player.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 30, 2015 2:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

JL Small. Excellent stepping stone before Charlier.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 30, 2015 2:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Laurent books are good. Nice blend of lyrical and technical.



http://www.hickeys.com/products/053/sku053417.htm



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 30, 2015 2:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow! I just looked at the price for the Laurent book. $57 is too much. Find something else.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 30, 2015 2:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pat Harbison and Chris Kase both have excellent books of technical studies modeled on Clarke's Technical Studies. Allen Vizzutti's Trumpet Method volume 1 also has a number of studies modeled on Clarke. Rich Willey has two books of variations on Clarke's Second Study.

As others have noted, however, Clarke can continue to offer challenges long after the first time through. Exercises can be single, K, double and/or triple tongued. You can also add tongue/slur patterns, such as slur two, tongue two, or tongue one, slur two to keep the studies interesting/challenging.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 30, 2015 2:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

oldenick wrote:
Wow! I just looked at the price for the Laurent book. $57 is too much. Find something else.


$20 here: http://qpress.ca/product/rene-laurent-etudes-pratiques-vol-1/
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 01, 2015 4:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the responses, everyone!
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 01, 2015 4:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There is probably some stuff on this page that you can use:

http://uhaweb.hartford.edu/lichtmann/tptstudies.html
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 01, 2015 4:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I which areas is the student lacking or in need of targeted work? I would seek to supplement those first. Good luck.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 01, 2015 5:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://johndanieltrumpet.com/
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 01, 2015 6:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Laurent Studies are a great resource.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 01, 2015 7:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like Rich (Boptism) Willy's modal variations on the Clark studies #2. They will twist your ears and your mind.

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 01, 2015 7:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ed Kennedy wrote:
I like Rich Willy's modal variations on the Clark studies #2. They will twist your ears and your mind.


Check these out:

http://goo.gl/mOjeo
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 01, 2015 10:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Check out Tony Plog"s method - especially the technique volumes (2&3) and try the Rochut T-bone books - great vocalise material with the added bonus of transposition
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 01, 2015 10:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

oldenick wrote:
Wow! I just looked at the price for the Laurent book. $57 is too much. Find something else.


You are right my friend. Grab the Laurent books here. WAY cheaper.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 02, 2015 6:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If one is developed well along the lines of traditional things and wishes to delve into additional tonalities, among a couple listed here, I'd recommend Pat Harbison's "Clarke Studies" as well. In a similar manner for more advanced students I also recommend playing the Clarke exercises starting on each scale step in the same key to cover all modes. Doesn't take long to figure out and helps the ear immensely.

(As per edit, this frickin' MS spell checker crap is for the pigs, The birds deserve better...)


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PostPosted: Sat Dec 26, 2015 11:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have three etude books (called "Daytudes" because I wrote one a day for a month for these three volumes).

They are as follows:
Daytudes Vol. 1 - Advanced
Vol. 2 - Intermediate
Vol. 3 - Lyrical

These are actually more like little "pieces" - great for sight-reading, or for playing stuff that tickles the ear a bit more than standard books. And each one has a story that goes with it.

They can be found here:
http://stephensonmusic.com/trumpet.htm

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