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Wallace New Member
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Posted: Mon Nov 30, 2015 12:11 pm Post subject: Book recommendation needed... |
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I have a student who is close to finishing up both the Clarke and Concone books.
Any recommendations for the next step for either technical or lyrical studies?
Thanks for your input. Trumpet is a more recent undertaking (post-college) for me, so literature is an area where I don't have a ton of background. I'm a tuba player by trade. |
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starkadder Heavyweight Member
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homecookin Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Mon Nov 30, 2015 12:27 pm Post subject: |
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Well, first of all, no one ever "finishes" the Clarke book.
If he has truly played through the entire book using all of the different articulations and working each exercise and etude up to reasonable speed, then it is time to start back at study number one. There is, of course, a lifetime's worth of stuff that needs to be practiced in the Arban book, along with the Schlossberg book.
Walter Smith Top Tones could come after he has played all the characteristics studies in the Arban book, also the Vassily Brandt Orchestral Studies and Etudes.
And then of course, there is the Charlier book.
There is a wealth of material out there, these are just a few of the standard books that I could come up with off the top of my head. |
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cheiden Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Mon Nov 30, 2015 1:19 pm Post subject: |
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How about Goldman's Practical Studies? Charlier is always good for a sufficiently advanced player. _________________ "I'm an engineer, which means I think I know a whole bunch of stuff I really don't."
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derekthor Veteran Member
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Posted: Mon Nov 30, 2015 2:27 pm Post subject: |
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JL Small. Excellent stepping stone before Charlier. |
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oldenick Veteran Member
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oldenick Veteran Member
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Posted: Mon Nov 30, 2015 2:41 pm Post subject: |
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Wow! I just looked at the price for the Laurent book. $57 is too much. Find something else. _________________ Lawler PS1
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Dayton Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Mon Nov 30, 2015 2:44 pm Post subject: |
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Pat Harbison and Chris Kase both have excellent books of technical studies modeled on Clarke's Technical Studies. Allen Vizzutti's Trumpet Method volume 1 also has a number of studies modeled on Clarke. Rich Willey has two books of variations on Clarke's Second Study.
As others have noted, however, Clarke can continue to offer challenges long after the first time through. Exercises can be single, K, double and/or triple tongued. You can also add tongue/slur patterns, such as slur two, tongue two, or tongue one, slur two to keep the studies interesting/challenging. |
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derekthor Veteran Member
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Wallace New Member
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Posted: Tue Dec 01, 2015 4:19 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks for the responses, everyone! |
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Jay Lichtmann Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Tue Dec 01, 2015 4:22 pm Post subject: |
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There is probably some stuff on this page that you can use:
http://uhaweb.hartford.edu/lichtmann/tptstudies.html _________________ In his retirement he had become that most dreaded of former athletes, the one who always remembered how much harder it was in his day "when ships were made of wood and men were made of steel."
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Craig Swartz Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Tue Dec 01, 2015 4:36 pm Post subject: |
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I which areas is the student lacking or in need of targeted work? I would seek to supplement those first. Good luck. |
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Richard III Heavyweight Member
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oliver king Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Tue Dec 01, 2015 6:37 pm Post subject: |
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The Laurent Studies are a great resource. |
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Ed Kennedy Heavyweight Member
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I like Rich (Boptism) Willy's modal variations on the Clark studies #2. They will twist your ears and your mind.
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Jay Lichtmann Heavyweight Member
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Ed Kennedy wrote: | I like Rich Willy's modal variations on the Clark studies #2. They will twist your ears and your mind. |
Check these out:
http://goo.gl/mOjeo _________________ In his retirement he had become that most dreaded of former athletes, the one who always remembered how much harder it was in his day "when ships were made of wood and men were made of steel."
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Trombacan Veteran Member
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Posted: Tue Dec 01, 2015 10:04 pm Post subject: |
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Check out Tony Plog"s method - especially the technique volumes (2&3) and try the Rochut T-bone books - great vocalise material with the added bonus of transposition _________________ "It's simple, it just isn't easy" - VC |
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timothyquinlan Veteran Member
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Posted: Tue Dec 01, 2015 10:24 pm Post subject: |
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oldenick wrote: | Wow! I just looked at the price for the Laurent book. $57 is too much. Find something else. |
You are right my friend. Grab the Laurent books here. WAY cheaper. |
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Craig Swartz Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2015 6:36 am Post subject: |
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If one is developed well along the lines of traditional things and wishes to delve into additional tonalities, among a couple listed here, I'd recommend Pat Harbison's "Clarke Studies" as well. In a similar manner for more advanced students I also recommend playing the Clarke exercises starting on each scale step in the same key to cover all modes. Doesn't take long to figure out and helps the ear immensely.
(As per edit, this frickin' MS spell checker crap is for the pigs, The birds deserve better...)
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JimmyThird Veteran Member
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Posted: Sat Dec 26, 2015 11:37 am Post subject: |
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I have three etude books (called "Daytudes" because I wrote one a day for a month for these three volumes).
They are as follows:
Daytudes Vol. 1 - Advanced
Vol. 2 - Intermediate
Vol. 3 - Lyrical
These are actually more like little "pieces" - great for sight-reading, or for playing stuff that tickles the ear a bit more than standard books. And each one has a story that goes with it.
They can be found here:
http://stephensonmusic.com/trumpet.htm
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