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PostPosted: Fri Feb 12, 2016 2:13 am    Post subject: Horn Polishing products Reply with quote

Hi guys, what are some good products to use for polishing a silver horn? I was using some cream by White's i think they name of it is.I feel like it may be too abrasive. I was looking online and i found Music Nomad MN701 Silver Polish for Silver and Silver-Plated Instruments.Has anyone ever used this? If so what have been the results on your horn?Any other suggestions would be appreciated.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 12, 2016 4:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

3M Tarni-Shield.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 12, 2016 4:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

3M TarniShield. Dilute 50% with water, paint it on with a soft brush or sponge. Let it completely dry, then buff it off with a clean microfiber cloth. Cut 1/2" strips of cloth to use between the valve casings and other tight places.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 12, 2016 5:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why cut the Tarnishield with water?
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 12, 2016 5:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

C.E.Divine wrote:
3M Tarni-Shield.


+1.

Also, though, if you make a habit of wiping off fingerprints, water, valve oil etc. after each playing session you can cut down how often you need polish; I seldom polish my Benge, and it generally looks like it doesn't really need it.
I think even Tarni Shield removes small amounts of silver.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 12, 2016 5:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

C.E.Divine wrote:
3M Tarni-Shield.


THIS !!!
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 12, 2016 6:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mike Lockman wrote:
Why cut the Tarnishield with water?


Because it's super thick.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 12, 2016 6:18 am    Post subject: Re: Horn Polishing products Reply with quote

aj27801 wrote:
Hi guys, what are some good products to use for polishing a silver horn? I was using some cream by White's i think they name of it is.I feel like it may be too abrasive. I was looking online and i found Music Nomad MN701 Silver Polish for Silver and Silver-Plated Instruments.Has anyone ever used this? If so what have been the results on your horn?Any other suggestions would be appreciated.


I like Hagerty's. It's an aerosol and very easy to work with. Spray on, wait and then wipe off.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 12, 2016 6:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mike Lockman wrote:
Why cut the Tarnishield with water?


Like Tom says, it is really thick as it comes. It's heavier than toothpaste. I use a cleaned out valve oil bottle to mix mine, then squirt it onto the brush or rag. It spreads easily, getting into all the knurling and wasting. There seems to be a chemical that removes the tarnish and, yes, some very light, fine polishing compound to really shine up the finish, but it is not aggressive. The product leaves behind a slippery film that "shields" the silver from the elements and extends the time between polishing.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 12, 2016 6:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mike Lockman wrote:
Why cut the Tarnishield with water?

Because it's easier to get into and wipe out of small places, it dries faster, and it works just as well if not better than full-strength.

And it gives you something to use an old valve oil bottle with. Pop the nipple (and then throw it away), wash the bottle with hot water & soap, mix 1/3 water 1/3 Tarnishield (so there's room to shake it up), re-cap the bottle and you're good to go.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 12, 2016 7:08 am    Post subject: Silver Polish Reply with quote

I have used Wrights Silver Creme for my Silver plated mouthpieces. And I've had good experience using the 3M Tarni - Shield for my Silver Plated horns.

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Wrights link: http://www.walmart.com/ip/Wright-s-Silver-Cream-8-oz/27139572
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 12, 2016 7:19 am    Post subject: Horn polishing products Reply with quote

Hello all,
Hagerty's. I like the liquid that is applied with a moistened sponge. The aerosol has a funny smell IMO. I have been using Hagerty's since 1973.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 12, 2016 7:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've always used Tarnishield since 1969 because that's what Ren Schilke recommended when I bought my first trumpet from him.

One of the issues you may run into if you use it full strength is that the caked-on powder you polish off after it dries can actually make micro scratches in the finish. That was another reason the shop always used cheesecloth and not cotton flannel to polish the horns- much more loose weave that would pick up those tiny chunks.

To be honest, I rarely polish my trumpets- my body system doesn't damage the silver and they do not seem to tarnish much over the course of the years. Clean living, I guess...
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 12, 2016 8:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello All.
Can I ask... What about brass with lacquer? Use the same thing or something different? Thanks for your help.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 12, 2016 8:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Brad361 wrote:
C.E.Divine wrote:
3M Tarni-Shield.


+1.

Also, though, if you make a habit of wiping off fingerprints, water, valve oil etc. after each playing session you can cut down how often you need polish; I seldom polish my Benge, and it generally looks like it doesn't really need it.
I think even Tarni Shield removes small amounts of silver.

Brad


This, yes. The less you use polish, the longer the plating will last. A spray bottle with rubbing alcohol will remove fingerprints, etc. For lacquer finishes, you don't even need the alcohol, just a soft cloth.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 12, 2016 8:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I use Flitz but only very rarely.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 12, 2016 9:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

After you polished your horn here's a thing we used to do in one of the Marine Field Bands I was in. We had inspections before every marching job and having a dirty or tarnished horn could get you pulling some extra duty. So, after we were done for the day and before each job we had a bottle of Windex cut in half with water. A couple squirts, wipe with a clean soft rag and no more finger prints, etc, nice and clean. I hated doing that to my personal Benge 6X, I like the patina. I was also in other bands where the looks of the horn didn't matter, but in that particular band the director's moto was 90% show and 10% blow. Nobody liked him, he was a believer in rehearsal for rehearsal's sake and we worked 180 days in a row without a day off, we got a MUC (Meritorious Unit Citation) for that. I now own one of those Bach trumpets we used, it was given to me and was a wreck and well worn. I had Osmun rebuilt the valves and I don't polish that horn (silver plated).
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 12, 2016 9:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

3M TarnaShield but I apply and rinse off with water and then dry. I do not buff it off after it dries.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 12, 2016 1:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok got it. I will try the 50/50 Tarnishield with water. Btw I have used Tarnishield since the lat 1960's. Great stuff. Only do it twice a year. Horns all look great!!!
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 12, 2016 2:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

justrfb wrote:
Hello All.
Can I ask... What about brass with lacquer? Use the same thing or something different? Thanks for your help.

Sincerely,
Rich


No, I don't think Tarni Shield or any other polish would work on lacquer. Actually, two of the reasons that a horn is lacquered is so the brass does not darken and the brass doesn't stain your hands, I've never used anything other than a soft cloth on a lacquered horn.

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