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Kai Hennacy
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 25, 2016 6:53 pm    Post subject: Book or Study on Mindful vs Mindless Practice Reply with quote

I'm writing an essay about how a musician should approach practicing in order to most effectively improve his or her abilities over time. Specifically, I'm discussing the balance between making adjustments to playing technique and reinforcing those adjustments. I'm looking for any literature that discusses this balance.

My personal dilemma has been between finding a more versatile technique and reinforcing whatever improvement I've found (so that I can play the same way the next time I pick up the horn). I've often either tried too many different approaches and been unable to remember the one that worked best, or I've reinforced an inferior technique that I have had to unlearn in order to improve.

I've often heard that mindful repetition is the only productive repetition, but I know first hand that there can be issues when constantly thinking about a better way to play each note instead of simply repeating the way that works. Overthinking also seems to interrupt a subconscious understanding of how to play well. Thinking less is often more effective.

I'm also looking for any literature focused on the tempo of practicing, especially on how and when to play slower, to reflect on the qualities of each note, and to play faster, to rely on muscle memory, as there is limited time to reflect on each note.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 30, 2016 11:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

These aren't EXACTLY what you're looking for, but here's a few books to maybe get started with.

Note Grouping- James Thurmond
Outliers- Malcolm Gladwell
Talent Code- Daniel Coyle
Sound in Motion- David McGill
Practicing Successfully- Elizabeth Green

They're all good reads regardless of whether or not they contain exactly what you're looking for
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 30, 2016 1:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

An odd recommendation: I watched a masterclass a while back where John Rommel recommended The Inner Game of Tennis.

It's on my Amazon wish-list as a result, but I haven't picked it up yet.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 30, 2016 1:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The inner game of Tennis is a phenomenal book, but yes, abstract. Thomas Sterner did a good job of applying those thoughts in his book The Practicing Mind. It's a great read as well!
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 30, 2016 1:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jaysonr wrote:
An odd recommendation: I watched a masterclass a while back where John Rommel recommended The Inner Game of Tennis.

It's on my Amazon wish-list as a result, but I haven't picked it up yet.


The Inner Game of Music is better. The author spent time with Rommel as he was writing his version.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 30, 2016 1:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would talk to David Motto of moltomusic.com. He studies, lectures and writes extensively on this topic and variants thereof, and he's good at what he does. He's an approachable dude.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 30, 2016 5:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A "New Agey" book that many have found useful is Kenny Werner's "Effortless Mastery".
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 30, 2016 7:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

May I suggest seeing Tom Stevens' video on Musicianship. Makes you think about how to practice.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 30, 2016 8:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just finished Josh Waitzkin's book The Art of Learning. Great book, highly recommended, 10/10.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 31, 2016 4:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do you want mainstream books, or do you want scholarly info?

If you're looking for scholarly info, your first stop is:
Cambridge Handbook of Expertise and Expert Performance

There is quite a lot in that book regarding deliberate practice and it covers most of the theories.

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Mzony - Where is the Tom Stevens video available from? I didn't realise it was out! I checked his website and there's only a sample video.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 31, 2016 6:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ShrubTrumpet wrote:
jaysonr wrote:
An odd recommendation: I watched a masterclass a while back where John Rommel recommended The Inner Game of Tennis.

It's on my Amazon wish-list as a result, but I haven't picked it up yet.


The Inner Game of Music is better. The author spent time with Rommel as he was writing his version.


The Inner Game of Tennis is vastly superior, even for music applications.

I also love Thinking Body, Dancing Mind.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 31, 2016 7:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

2 books that I have found to be very inspiring and refreshing (to varying degrees) are:

The Art of Practicing by Madelin Bruser
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The Musician's Way by Gerald Klickstein

Also inspiring is The Music Lesson by Victor Wooten.

Madeline Bruser's book is very good in addressing motivational issues, physical issues, etc. The Klickstein is a valuable resource that details very specifically varying approaches to practice habits in a very procedural manner.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 20, 2016 8:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Super valuable resources, all. Thanks for the thread.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 27, 2016 10:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd recommend The Alexander Technique for Musicians by Judith Kleinman and Peter Buckoke. Both are teachers at the Royal College of music and have what I think you are looking for.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 28, 2016 5:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

KNatoli64 wrote:
I'd recommend The Alexander Technique for Musicians by Judith Kleinman and Peter Buckoke. Both are teachers at the Royal College of music and have what I think you are looking for.


I've been told by quite a number of people that if you're going to explore something like Alexander technique, and you're not in for the mysticism aspect of it (Eg. Spiritual Enlightenment via Body Awareness) that Feldenkrais is a more practical option.
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