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Andy Del
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I have played both. the Schilke has the oddest intonation, requiring 1&4 for low C, plus a very shrill sound. The Scherzer, in contrast is pretty well in tune and sings. Well, the old Sinfonia ones do, at least...
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trumpetmike
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I have always played this on Bb piccolo - I did get my hands on a C piccolo during the lead-up to one performance but found that my fingers and brain were so used to the Bb piccolo that it actually became more difficult to use the C, despite the ease of F major.
That said, I am possibly a rarity in the fact that my piccolo lives in Bb (I do a lot of brass ensemble playing) and the A side only comes out for weddings and certain solo performances. Bb piccolo is my home key for piccolo playing and I am lucky that the piccolo I have (Eclipse) plays awesomely in Bb, at least - it does with me on the end (or so I am told) |
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Crazy Finn
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I've seen that one before. Very nice!
The guy playing the recorder looks like Garrison Keillor.
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John Mohan
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I've seen that one before. Very nice!
The guy playing the recorder looks like Garrison Keillor. |
Oh my gosh, I just was about to leave a reply saying the same thing with a reference to a particular spot on the video!
https://youtu.be/CEJ-xcblCMo?t=2m18s
The Prairie Bach Companion?!
The guy on the Natural Trumpet is GREAT! |
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Crazy Finn
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Thanks for narrowing down the vid for that! I checked google to see if Garrison played recorder on the side (you never know, it's the sort of thing he might) but I didn't come up with anything.
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eric33
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| ThIs trumpet player's name is Jean-François Madeuf. |
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cjl
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Bob Barclay and Don Smithers would approve of the "two holes only" approach (ie, the hole in the bell and the hole in the mouthpiece). An excellent performance.
For listening purposes I prefer Friedemann Immer but he uses a modern, baroque trumpet, not a true natural trumpet. What a beautiful, clear sound he has on the Brandenburg!
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Steve A
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He's definitely phenomenally skilled, and it's very impressive feat to play it that way.
However, just from a standpoint of personal taste, I prefer the (small, IMO) compromise in authenticity that comes from using a three or four holed baroque trumpet rather than a natural trumpet. It's more in tune, and has a more even sound, both of which keep much more flow to the musical lines, whereas the uneven sound/volume/pitch with the natural trumpet, even when played very, very well ultimately leave me with more of a feeling of watching a difficult task being executed than hearing beautiful music.
For the sake of comparison, I very much prefer this version:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHpFxA-HbcA |
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TrumpetDan79
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My favorite performance of the Brandenberg Concerto No. 2, to date:
I Barocchisti with Gabriele Cassone on tromba barocca:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0TwZpsbU_EU
Cassone is one of THE premiere natural and Baroque trumpeters of his generation.
He isn't too shabby on modern trumpet, playing contemporary music either! 
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| In terms of beauty, phrasing and musicality, Eklund's version is also a reference... |
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