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1jazzyalex Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2017 9:06 pm Post subject: Maintainance/repair thread |
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How about a "thread" or "department" for maintainance/repair? Then we'd have one place to put all our discussions of our favorite valve oils, how to unstick slides (I think the best method is to take the dang thing to a repairman myself!) and so on.
It could end up being a pretty popular discussion area. _________________ Yamaha 8335LA with Blessing 3C, 5C, Schilke 11A4A |
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Louise Finch Heavyweight Member
Joined: 10 Aug 2012 Posts: 5464 Location: Suffolk, England
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Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2017 11:10 am Post subject: Re: Maintainance/repair thread |
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1jazzyalex wrote: | How about a "thread" or "department" for maintainance/repair? Then we'd have one place to put all our discussions of our favorite valve oils, how to unstick slides (I think the best method is to take the dang thing to a repairman myself!) and so on.
It could end up being a pretty popular discussion area. |
Hi
Yes, I think that this would be a great idea.
All the best
Lou _________________ Trumpets:
Yamaha 8335 Xeno II
Bach Strad 180ML/37
B&H Oxford
Kanstul F Besson C
Yamaha D and D/Eb
- James R New Custom 3Cs
Flugel:
Bach Strad 183 - Bach 3CFL
Cornets:
Yamaha Neo + Xeno
Bach Strad 184ML
B&H Imperial
- Kanstul Custom 3Cs |
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iiipopes Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2017 12:12 pm Post subject: |
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The only two items I would add to consider before starting a maintenance/repair thread or subforum:
1) When considering embarking upon a maintenance or repair item on a brass instrument, remember the famous quote from the character Harry Callahan, as played by Clint Eastwood in the movie Magnum Force, "A man's got to know his limitations"; and
2) If during such consideration, a feeling of hesitation or doubt ensues, sing these words to the tune we all know, the famous excerpt from the William Tell Overture by Rossini, "To the tech, to the tech, to the tech, tech, tech!"
I have fixed or repaired, modded or built most items (save major plumbing, electrical or structural items) that can be done by a homeowner about the home. I have torn down and rebuilt Jaguar engines, including cylinder heads, balancing the triple SU carburetors, and wire spoke wheels. I have adjusted, set up, modded and rebuilt electric guitars, basses and amplifiers. But my brass instrument work I leave to my techs. _________________ King Super 20 Trumpet; Sov 921 Cornet
Bach cornet modded to be a 181L clone
Couesnon Flugelhorn and C trumpet |
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Louise Finch Heavyweight Member
Joined: 10 Aug 2012 Posts: 5464 Location: Suffolk, England
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Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2017 1:18 pm Post subject: |
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iiipopes wrote: | The only two items I would add to consider before starting a maintenance/repair thread or subforum:
1) When considering embarking upon a maintenance or repair item on a brass instrument, remember the famous quote from the character Harry Callahan, as played by Clint Eastwood in the movie Magnum Force, "A man's got to know his limitations"; and
2) If during such consideration, a feeling of hesitation or doubt ensues, sing these words to the tune we all know, the famous excerpt from the William Tell Overture by Rossini, "To the tech, to the tech, to the tech, tech, tech!"
I have fixed or repaired, modded or built most items (save major plumbing, electrical or structural items) that can be done by a homeowner about the home. I have torn down and rebuilt Jaguar engines, including cylinder heads, balancing the triple SU carburetors, and wire spoke wheels. I have adjusted, set up, modded and rebuilt electric guitars, basses and amplifiers. But my brass instrument work I leave to my techs. |
Hi iiipopes
I totally agree.
I was thinking along the lines of replies being made by the techs who regularly post on here, when I agreed that I thought it was a good idea. We probably don't want or need a sub forum on DIY trumpet repairing.
There are only a few jobs which I do on a trumpet, and that is replacing valve guides (on trumpets with internal valve springs and double valve guides), valve springs, internal valve felts, and top valve cap rubber washers on Bach Strads.
After receiving a quote of £25 (about $31 US) to fit my own replacement valve guides, I had another tech (who fitted them free of charge whilst doing another small job for me) show me how to do it, and I couldn't believe how anyone could justify charging £25. Needless to say I never used that tech.
Take Care
Lou _________________ Trumpets:
Yamaha 8335 Xeno II
Bach Strad 180ML/37
B&H Oxford
Kanstul F Besson C
Yamaha D and D/Eb
- James R New Custom 3Cs
Flugel:
Bach Strad 183 - Bach 3CFL
Cornets:
Yamaha Neo + Xeno
Bach Strad 184ML
B&H Imperial
- Kanstul Custom 3Cs |
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iiipopes Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2017 6:58 am Post subject: |
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Louise Finch wrote: | I was thinking along the lines of replies being made by the techs who regularly post on here, when I agreed that I thought it was a good idea. We probably don't want or need a sub forum on DIY trumpet repairing.
There are only a few jobs which I do on a trumpet, and that is replacing valve guides (on trumpets with internal valve springs and double valve guides), valve springs, internal valve felts, and top valve cap rubber washers on Bach Strads.
After receiving a quote of £25 (about $31 US) to fit my own replacement valve guides, I had another tech (who fitted them free of charge whilst doing another small job for me) show me how to do it, and I couldn't believe how anyone could justify charging £25. Needless to say I never used that tech.
Take Care
Lou |
Indeed. You state well the other side of the coin: the pleasure and necessity of finding a competent, reasonably priced tech that helps the player as well as fixes the horn. I am also fortunate to have developed a good professional relationship with a local tech who does superlative work at reasonable prices. The flip side of that is I always do my best to schedule maintenance or repair work well in advance so there is no time crunch (barring emergencies, of course, which we all know are worth extra cost as needed). _________________ King Super 20 Trumpet; Sov 921 Cornet
Bach cornet modded to be a 181L clone
Couesnon Flugelhorn and C trumpet |
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Eddie Jeffries Regular Member
Joined: 13 Feb 2017 Posts: 75 Location: United States
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Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2017 3:20 pm Post subject: |
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Every time I have attempted to do a $10 repair myself,
I messed it up so badly that it cost $100 to have a professional technician repair my repair.
Does anyone attempt to save money with do-it-yourself dentistry?
_________________ eddiejeffries@hotmail.com
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Louise Finch Heavyweight Member
Joined: 10 Aug 2012 Posts: 5464 Location: Suffolk, England
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Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2017 1:15 am Post subject: |
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iiipopes wrote: | Louise Finch wrote: | I was thinking along the lines of replies being made by the techs who regularly post on here, when I agreed that I thought it was a good idea. We probably don't want or need a sub forum on DIY trumpet repairing.
There are only a few jobs which I do on a trumpet, and that is replacing valve guides (on trumpets with internal valve springs and double valve guides), valve springs, internal valve felts, and top valve cap rubber washers on Bach Strads.
After receiving a quote of £25 (about $31 US) to fit my own replacement valve guides, I had another tech (who fitted them free of charge whilst doing another small job for me) show me how to do it, and I couldn't believe how anyone could justify charging £25. Needless to say I never used that tech.
Take Care
Lou |
Indeed. You state well the other side of the coin: the pleasure and necessity of finding a competent, reasonably priced tech that helps the player as well as fixes the horn.
Hi iiipopes
Thank you very much. Sadly I'm have a difficulty finding such a tech in my part of the UK.
I am also fortunate to have developed a good professional relationship with a local tech who does superlative work at reasonable prices.
Sounds great.
The flip side of that is I always do my best to schedule maintenance or repair work well in advance so there is no time crunch (barring emergencies, of course, which we all know are worth extra cost as needed).
Yes, I totally agree.
Take Care
Lou
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_________________ Trumpets:
Yamaha 8335 Xeno II
Bach Strad 180ML/37
B&H Oxford
Kanstul F Besson C
Yamaha D and D/Eb
- James R New Custom 3Cs
Flugel:
Bach Strad 183 - Bach 3CFL
Cornets:
Yamaha Neo + Xeno
Bach Strad 184ML
B&H Imperial
- Kanstul Custom 3Cs |
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Louise Finch Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2017 1:17 am Post subject: |
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Eddie Jeffries wrote: | Every time I have attempted to do a $10 repair myself,
I messed it up so badly that it cost $100 to have a professional technician repair my repair.
Does anyone attempt to save money with do-it-yourself dentistry?
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Do it yourself dentistry, what a horrible thought lol.
Take Care
Lou _________________ Trumpets:
Yamaha 8335 Xeno II
Bach Strad 180ML/37
B&H Oxford
Kanstul F Besson C
Yamaha D and D/Eb
- James R New Custom 3Cs
Flugel:
Bach Strad 183 - Bach 3CFL
Cornets:
Yamaha Neo + Xeno
Bach Strad 184ML
B&H Imperial
- Kanstul Custom 3Cs |
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