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Fredrik
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 17, 2017 4:39 am    Post subject: Stork mouthpieces Reply with quote

Hi everyone,

I've been playing a Schilke 14 and Curry 1.5C for a couple of years but yesterday I tried my Stork Vacchiano 2C and 4C just for fun, haven't played on them for about 3 years or so.

I know it's always a honeymoon period when trying different mouthpieces and I'm not really looking for something new but I actually like the Storks quite a bit! Full sound, easy blowing, good intonation.

What are your opinions about Stork mouthpieces, anyone here play on them?
Are any professional trumpet players using Stork mouthpieces nowadays?

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 17, 2017 4:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've tried a few and liked the way they sound an play a lot, but ultimately always moved on to something else. The closest I ever got to a match was a 1C+ 26D. I think I'd like to try the "non-pumped" version (1C 26D)

As for pros playing them:
Mavin Stamm still plays his 7D+ 25C some I think
Tom Rolfs plays a 2B+ 25C as principal in the BSO
I think Stuart Stephenson, principal in Atlanta plays a Stork (don't know the model though).
John Urness (johntpt here on the TH) is playing a Stork lately I think.

I'm sure there are many others, those are just some that popped into my head.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 17, 2017 6:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Jaysonr,

Thanks for the reply! Stork surely makes some great mouthpieces. Playing them yesterday actually made me wonder why I moved on to different pieces. I'm not really a gear nerd but like so many others I guess I was looking for "the perfect one" even though I realize it doesn't really work that way.

Anyway, thanks alot for the reply!

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 17, 2017 6:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I play Stork Vacchiano mouthpieces and like them a lot. I have versions for trumpet, flugel, cornet and piccolo. I moved to the 1.25 rim when they started offering that (except I stayed with the 2p for picc).

I think a few members of the Boston Symphony Orchestra play Stork. They appear on the Stork website.

I took a lesson with Stuart Stephenson last year, and I noticed he was playing a Stork. He may have mentioned it too, but we didn't talk about equipment much, and I didn't notice or ask the model. He sounds great with it!
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 17, 2017 6:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I played on a 2C for quite a while and have a 3C that I play with every now and then. I love the dark sound of them, but the honeymoon period is short for me. I don't have the practice time these days to develop the endurance the rounded rim and funnel cup require for me.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 17, 2017 9:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You're correct Fredrik (aka dstdenis) , Ben Wright of the BSO also plays Stork mouthpieces. We stock the 2B+ 25C model along with the full range of Stork trumpet, cornet, piccolo trumpet with cornet or trumpet shank available here:

http://www.osmun.com/mouthpieces/trumpet/stork-trumpet-mouthpiece.html

I hope this is helpful.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 17, 2017 10:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

dstdenis wrote:
I play Stork Vacchiano mouthpieces and like them a lot. I have versions for trumpet, flugel, cornet and piccolo. I moved to the 1.25 rim when they started offering that (except I stayed with the 2p for picc).

I think a few members of the Boston Symphony Orchestra play Stork. They appear on the Stork website.

I took a lesson with Stuart Stephenson last year, and I noticed he was playing a Stork. He may have mentioned it too, but we didn't talk about equipment much, and I didn't notice or ask the model. He sounds great with it!


What is the rim contour on the 1.25 like?
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 17, 2017 10:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi everyone,

Thanks for all the replies! I've been playing some more on the Stork 4C tonight (the 2C has always felt a bit too big).

One thing that I notice is that even though it's a standard 27 throat, it feels really open and the air seems to go efficiently through the mouthpiece into the horn. I don't really know if it's the shape of the cup or backbore that does it but that's how it feels to me at least. It feels open and secure to play on and really centers the notes on the horn. Well, time will tell how it feels in the long run, like I said, it's been years since I played on these mouthpieces.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 17, 2017 10:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fredrik wrote:
Hi everyone,

Thanks for all the replies! I've been playing some more on the Stork 4C tonight (the 2C has always felt a bit too big).

One thing that I notice is that even though it's a standard 27 throat, it feels really open and the air seems to go efficiently through the mouthpiece into the horn. I don't really know if it's the shape of the cup or backbore that does it but that's how it feels to me at least. It feels open and secure to play on and really centers the notes on the horn. Well, time will tell how it feels in the long run, like I said, it's been years since I played on these mouthpieces.

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/Fredrik


I have found Stork pieces to feel more open than the throat number might indicate. I'm not sure if their measurements are "loose" (i.e., their 25 is a "loose" 25, their 26 is a "loose" 26, etc.), or if it has to do with the open throat entrance and length of throat (all of which play into blow resistance), but I've found a "26" to "feel" more like a 25, and a 25 to "feel" more like a 24 in my opinion.

These types of things are all *so* objective, but I feel where you are coming from.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 17, 2017 10:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jasonr,

I totally agree. It could be the actual throat size or the throat entrance and lenght. At least to me, the rim shape also have an impact on if a mouthpiece feels open or not. I've never really played well on flat or wide rims, my chops seem to lock in and aren't able to vibrate. The Stork 4C on the other hand has a pretty round rim which enables my lips to vibrate freely.

And yeah, those things considering how a mouthpiece "feels" are really different for different players...

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 17, 2017 11:22 am    Post subject: Always John Stork mouthpieces Reply with quote

In about 1979, my teacher, Joe Docksey, had me change mouthpieces, at his recommendation i purchased a Giardinelli 7C two part mouthpiece and a second, 7S underpart. Skip to 2016; where, after a 30 year break, I start playing again.

The old Giardinelli shop is long gone. After some research however, I come to find out that my 7C came from the Giardinelli custom shop, where John Stork was in charge. I also learned that he has his own shop. Several calls later(Phyllis is awesome!), I have my original Giardinelli 7C/7S mouthpieces refurbished and the rim gold plated. I also purchased the closest analog, the Stork 3C Vacchiano with the Symphonic backbore. After speaking with my current teachers I have picked up the straight 7E underpart which is now my main mouthpiece. In the future there will be a Stork 7FL, a backup Vacchiano 3C with the standard backbore and probably a Studiomaster 6LT, which is the true 7S analog. In retrospect, the symphonic backbore was not right for me, right now. Perhaps in the future.

As far as the free blowing feel, I have been told by a couple of sources that the backbore is distinct and is why you have that open feel.

I am really sold on my Stork mouthpieces. Everyone is different, but these mouthpieces really work for me.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 17, 2017 11:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jaysonr wrote:
What is the rim contour on the 1.25 like?

To me, the 1.25 rim feels like it has a slightly narrower rim contour than the 2, but it's subtle. This is okay by me, because I have fleshy lips and narrow rims feel better to me than wide rim shapes. It isn't so narrow, though, that it feels like it's cutting into my lips. It's still round enough for me.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 17, 2017 11:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

dstdenis wrote:
jaysonr wrote:
What is the rim contour on the 1.25 like?

To me, the 1.25 rim feels like it has a slightly narrower rim contour than the 2, but it's subtle. This is okay by me, because I have fleshy lips and narrow rims feel better to me than wide rim shapes. It isn't so narrow, though, that it feels like it's cutting into my lips. It's still round enough for me.


Thanks,
I was hoping it was a bit wider and more cushiony like the "1" which is a tad large for me. Phyllis has offered to make me a B+ 25C with a 1C rim contour...I should probably take her up on that one of these days.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 17, 2017 11:53 am    Post subject: Stork Reply with quote

Yes, I've been playing on a Stork for about 7 years now - haven't ever looked back. The rim has always felt extremely comfortable to me, and they've been great about matching me with the correct rim and cup shape and size
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 18, 2017 5:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stork designed the Vacchiano models in part after Vacchiano's rim preference. Vacchiano liked a thin round rim with a rounded inner edge. You used to be able to go to Giardinelli, way before Stork worked there (on Broadway and 56th street or thereabouts) and ask to have a Vacchiano rim put on your mouthpiece (which I did once). If you like that style of rim then you will like Stork mouthpieces. They tend to sound a little bit rounder than the equivalent Bach size. If you like a mouthpiece with a rim that has a solid grip, then the Storks might not be for you.
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Fredrik
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 18, 2017 5:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stuart Stephenson and everyone else,

Thanks for the replies. Stork surely make some great mouthpieces. I wonder why I moved on to different pieces, I guess time will tell if it's the right move to go back and play Stork.

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 18, 2017 6:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a Vacc. 1. It's a good piece but tires me out for some reason.
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