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HornnOOb Heavyweight Member
Joined: 06 Jun 2010 Posts: 897 Location: East of the Sun & West of the Moon
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Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2017 12:35 am Post subject: |
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A lot of folks like the Kanstul 925 Custom Classic. I just happen to have one listed for sale in the Marketplace. _________________ I rode in on a horse and can't seem to get out of L.A.
Severinsen Destino 3*
1971 Getzen Eterna 900S Severinsen Model
1984 Getzen Eterna 896 Flugelhorn
1951 Olds Special Cornet
Denis Wick 1C Heavytop
Getzen Flugel 3C |
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maynard-46 Heavyweight Member
Joined: 25 Oct 2002 Posts: 1845 Location: GEORGIA
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Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2017 6:06 am Post subject: flugelhorn advice |
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I recently purchased a lacquered Adams F5 with a Gold Brass bell. I play flugel ALOT and this has a sound VERY close to the Cousenon that I owned in the late '60's - early '70's. IMO it is probably the best horn I have ever played...period!!! Build quality is beautiful...intonation is spot on...it's scale is even from bottom to top...upper register is VERY nice...and the "short-stroke valve system" makes more technical lines MUCH easier to move through. To say that I am pleased with this horn would be an understatement!!!
Butch _________________ TRUMPE: YAMAHA Lacq. "Shew Gen II" / Legends .585 "CatMaster" Top / KT "TKO" BB / Reeves #5.75 Sleeve.
FLUGELHORN: ADAMS Custom "F1" / Legends .585 "CatMaster FL. |
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trumpet.sanity Heavyweight Member
Joined: 24 Oct 2016 Posts: 763
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Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2017 6:19 am Post subject: |
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Yo Butch, I played an A5 last week. What a sweet horn! Congrats. It's like a Counseon on steroids. Killer sound and blow. Intonation is great, and those valves!!!
Enjoy it buddy! |
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maynard-46 Heavyweight Member
Joined: 25 Oct 2002 Posts: 1845 Location: GEORGIA
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Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2017 7:06 am Post subject: flugelhorn advice |
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Quote: | Yo Butch, I played an A5 last week. What a sweet horn! Congrats. It's like a Counseon on steroids. Killer sound and blow. Intonation is great, and those valves!!! |
trumpet.sanity...thank you...I am enjoying it immensely!!! Did you play the A5 trumpet or the F5 flugel??? I hear their trumpets are nice too as I'm VERY interested in their A6 which is their version of the old Conn Connstellation. I own Kanstul's version which I absolutely love!!!!
Butch _________________ TRUMPE: YAMAHA Lacq. "Shew Gen II" / Legends .585 "CatMaster" Top / KT "TKO" BB / Reeves #5.75 Sleeve.
FLUGELHORN: ADAMS Custom "F1" / Legends .585 "CatMaster FL. |
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trumpet.sanity Heavyweight Member
Joined: 24 Oct 2016 Posts: 763
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Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2017 7:24 am Post subject: |
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Oops, I meant the F5, I played the F1 as well. But the sound on the F5 is to die for!! I love the resistance, you can really back off and get such a fluffy whisper.
I played a A5 trumpet as well. I'd love to play one with a smaller bell and tighter throat.
But the flugs?? Super dreamy 😍 |
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trumpet.sanity Heavyweight Member
Joined: 24 Oct 2016 Posts: 763
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Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2017 7:28 am Post subject: |
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I don't have the disposable cash flow for new horns right now, maybe in the future. But I sure like those Adams horns more and more. And I keep seeing more and more cats playing on them.
Someday I'd love to own one. I'd get as little bling as possible though. No fancy finishes, or ornamental finger buttons, or extra heavy additions. |
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nichdelgado97 New Member
Joined: 26 Jan 2017 Posts: 7 Location: Indio, California
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Posted: Sat Jan 28, 2017 10:59 pm Post subject: |
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You can't go wrong with an Adams flugel or the Kanstul 1525 |
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Mark Bradley Heavyweight Member
Joined: 28 Jan 2002 Posts: 1149 Location: Kansas City
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Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2017 11:35 am Post subject: |
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There a good number of nice flugels out there, but the one I would not hesitate to buy again (been playing it for 5 years or so) is the Yamaha YFH-8315G. _________________ Bach 180S-25/ Reeves 43C
Blessing 1580
Bach 181SML cornet/ Laskey 60SB
Yamaha 8315G flugel/ Reeves 42F |
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Paul in GA Regular Member
Joined: 04 May 2016 Posts: 25 Location: Roswell, GA
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Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2017 9:31 am Post subject: Early 70's Getzen |
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I have an early 70s Getzen 3 valve in lacquer. Really great horn. Comparable to Cuesnon from the same period. If you can find one, grab it. |
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BSTRUMPET85 Regular Member
Joined: 18 Sep 2004 Posts: 98
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Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2017 10:41 am Post subject: Re: Flugelhorn Advice |
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gtrmptman1 wrote: | Looking to purchase a new flugelhorn. I was wondering if I can get some input from the masses to see what people like. I play on a Stomvi VRII trumpet which I love so I was considering the Stomvi Titan. I would also like to check out the Adams Flugels and Courtois but I will like to hear thoughts from people that have tried many different horns.
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Check out Van Laar, really amazing horns!
https://youtu.be/VObqbaq_OP8 |
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trickg Heavyweight Member
Joined: 02 Jan 2002 Posts: 5680 Location: Glen Burnie, Maryland
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Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2017 6:52 am Post subject: |
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I had a Kanstul CCF 925 in lacquer with the copper bell - that horn was chosen after a fair amount of play testing of various horns in various locations around the Baltimore/DC/Southern PA area. I chose it because I just liked how it played and it had a sweet silkiness to its sound.
I sold that horn because at the time I wanted money for another project I was trying to fund, and I wasn't gigging with it. I've kicked myself about that ever since - I should have never sold it because I certainly can't buy another one for what anything close to what I paid for that one.
I'm currently on an ACB Doubler. It's not the horn that the Kanstul 925 was, but it gets the job done, and it was easy on the wallet. _________________ Patrick Gleason
- Jupiter 1600i, ACB 3C, Warburton 4SVW/Titmus RT2
- Brasspire Unicorn C
- ACB Doubler
"95% of the average 'weekend warrior's' problems will be solved by an additional 30 minutes of insightful practice." - PLP |
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scunningham16 New Member
Joined: 07 Feb 2017 Posts: 6
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Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2017 3:19 pm Post subject: |
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I love my ACB doublers. I upgraded the valve springs with Yamaha springs . It sounds amazing and feels great |
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trickg Heavyweight Member
Joined: 02 Jan 2002 Posts: 5680 Location: Glen Burnie, Maryland
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Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2017 10:05 am Post subject: |
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scunningham16 wrote: | I love my ACB doublers. I upgraded the valve springs with Yamaha springs . It sounds amazing and feels great |
I did the same thing, and I also swapped out the leadpipe insert for a genuine Yamaha insert, which seems to have improved it too. The stock springs on the ACB Doubler are pretty stiff, so the Yamaha springs gave the valves a whole different feel. _________________ Patrick Gleason
- Jupiter 1600i, ACB 3C, Warburton 4SVW/Titmus RT2
- Brasspire Unicorn C
- ACB Doubler
"95% of the average 'weekend warrior's' problems will be solved by an additional 30 minutes of insightful practice." - PLP |
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delano Heavyweight Member
Joined: 18 Jan 2009 Posts: 3118 Location: The Netherlands
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TrentAustin Heavyweight Member
Joined: 06 Nov 2002 Posts: 5485 Location: KC MO
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Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2017 5:01 am Post subject: |
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trickg wrote: | scunningham16 wrote: | I love my ACB doublers. I upgraded the valve springs with Yamaha springs . It sounds amazing and feels great |
I did the same thing, and I also swapped out the leadpipe insert for a genuine Yamaha insert, which seems to have improved it too. The stock springs on the ACB Doubler are pretty stiff, so the Yamaha springs gave the valves a whole different feel. |
FYI all the new Doubler horns come with upgraded springs and a revamped leadpipe. We're working on some new tweaks as well in the construction of the valveblock to hopefully improve the quality of these as well. I'm hopefully flying out in a few months to work at the factory as well!
Best,
T _________________ http://austincustombrass.biz
http://trentaustinmusic.com
http://instagram.com/austincustombrass
This acct will be deactivated as of March 2021. email info@austincustombass.com |
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lewins Regular Member
Joined: 12 Feb 2011 Posts: 19 Location: Lansing, Michigan
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Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2017 6:57 am Post subject: |
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I bought my first flugelhorn a few years ago at an ITG conference. It gave me the opportunity to try out just about every brand and model on the market. I liked the Bobby Shew Yamaha a lot, but for me it was between the Van Laar and the Stomvi Titan, and I wound up choosing the Stomvi. |
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trickg Heavyweight Member
Joined: 02 Jan 2002 Posts: 5680 Location: Glen Burnie, Maryland
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Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2017 7:02 am Post subject: |
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TrentAustin wrote: | FYI all the new Doubler horns come with upgraded springs and a revamped leadpipe. We're working on some new tweaks as well in the construction of the valveblock to hopefully improve the quality of these as well. I'm hopefully flying out in a few months to work at the factory as well!
Best,
T |
Sweet! I think that the Doubler is a fantastic value for anyone who might find an occasional use for flugel - it plays well, sounds really nice, and the price makes it an easy purchase for someone who might not otherwise have the budget for something in a much higher price bracket. _________________ Patrick Gleason
- Jupiter 1600i, ACB 3C, Warburton 4SVW/Titmus RT2
- Brasspire Unicorn C
- ACB Doubler
"95% of the average 'weekend warrior's' problems will be solved by an additional 30 minutes of insightful practice." - PLP |
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Gartex1960 New Member
Joined: 22 Mar 2017 Posts: 7 Location: Texas
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Posted: Mon Mar 27, 2017 10:22 am Post subject: Flugelhorn Advice |
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Taylor horns are great!!! _________________ Arthur D. Ferris
US Army (R) |
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rufflicks Heavyweight Member
Joined: 14 Mar 2011 Posts: 641 Location: Mesa AZ
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Posted: Mon Mar 27, 2017 3:55 pm Post subject: |
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Get ahold of Joe Pino he is in NY he has a Titan. I have no doubt he would let you give the Titan a once around. Joe is a sweet guy look him up.
Best, Jon _________________ http://www.youtube.com/user/Rufftips
Remember this is supposed to be fun. |
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HERMOKIWI Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Mon Mar 27, 2017 4:31 pm Post subject: |
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I have an Adams F2 and a Kanstul 1525. The Adams has a red brass bell with a nickel silver flair. The Kanstul has a copper bell.
Due to the copper bell the Kanstul sounds a little more mellow than the Adams. Due to the nickel silver flair the Adams has a little more edge/projection than the Kanstul. That being said, both horns are great horns which sound like flugelhorns. The Kanstul isn't "trombonish" and the Adams isn't "trumpety."
The short throw valves on the Adams are awesome.
I tried an Adams F1 at J. Landress Brass, also with a red brass bell and nickel silver flair and it, too, is a great horn. The F1 is extremely lightweight, a lot lighter than the Kanstul 1525. The F2 feels a little heavier than the Kanstul 1525. These are all excellent horns. You really wouldn't go wrong with any of them. _________________ HERMOKIWI |
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