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PostPosted: Mon Mar 06, 2017 5:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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If I were buying a cornet for jazz I would be looking for an Olds Super / Super Recording


What is it about the Olds Super / Super Recording that you like? Does it have a bright sound? Is it easy in the upper register? Can you color the sound? Can you bend the notes easily?

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 06, 2017 5:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Grits Burgh wrote:
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GordonH posted:

If I were buying a cornet for jazz I would be looking for an Olds Super / Super Recording


What is it about the Olds Super / Super Recording that you like? Does it have a bright sound? Is it easy in the upper register? Can you color the sound? Can you bend the notes easily?

Thanks,
Grits


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 06, 2017 7:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

rufflicks wrote:
I found this horn to be quite versatile worked in a host styles including Trad and modern Jazz.


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Jon


Great demo, Jon. That's one of the things I'm always looking for is a demo of what the horn can do in various styles. It sounds much like my York. Interesting that it is a ML bore, it sounds bigger than that. For the trad. or dixie sound, I would like a little sweeter sound than it gets. I wish there were a modern small bore cornet out there.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 06, 2017 8:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Richard III wrote:
I wish there were a modern small bore cornet out there.

Me too. Small bore trumpets too, like the 1907 Besson. Brad Goode wrote a blog post about small bore trumpets and the lost art of trumpet design. He thinks they're much easier to play, and yet they can provide a huge sound when you want that.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 07, 2017 8:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

dstdenis wrote:
Richard III wrote:
I wish there were a modern small bore cornet out there.

Me too. Small bore trumpets too, like the 1907 Besson. Brad Goode wrote a blog post about small bore trumpets and the lost art of trumpet design. He thinks they're much easier to play, and yet they can provide a huge sound when you want that.


Thanks for the link to that article. I've never seen it before. I so totally agree.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 07, 2017 11:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Richard,

The sound is my sound... always remember; source material will only be amplified by the AX. I was playing a mouthpiece no cornetist would play. My blasphemous gear would cause a riot amongst the righteous. In other words with your gear I have no doubt that you could get the sweet sound you are looking for.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 07, 2017 2:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good point, Jon. Right now I'm playing a Conn 80A cornet with a Yamaha 11E mouthpiece. I'm close to the sound I want but not there. The glorious quest goes on.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 07, 2017 2:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Grits Burgh wrote:
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GordonH posted:

If I were buying a cornet for jazz I would be looking for an Olds Super / Super Recording

What is it about the Olds Super / Super Recording that you like? Does it have a bright sound? Is it easy in the upper register? Can you color the sound? Can you bend the notes easily?

Thanks,
Grits
I have a Los Angeles Olds Recording cornet and it is the easiest cornet for bending and scooping notes I have ever played. It's such a wonderful instrument . . . I had one years ago that I sold (like a big dummy) but now I have another one. This one is from 1952 or 1953, in excellent playing condition thanks in large part to Michael Del Quadro's expertise.

One day I hope to be able to sound half as good on it as Mike Sailors on his Puje!

(Great postings there, Mike!)


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 19, 2017 12:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jadickson wrote:
Has anyone tried to make it work with an Olds Ambassador cornet?
How did that work for you?


Olu Dara did OK with such.

The Olds block sure beats the student level Conn, as does the overall responsiveness. Gotta follow basics and get the valves all the way down with the A-5. The Recording cornet has more forgiveness there for 'art'.

Ambassadors aren't outwardly clunky, though, more like sure-foooted. Good with mutes.
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