Jupiter JFR 1100r

bassguy · Veteran Member Joined: 25 May 2016 Posts: 336

Is this a good flugelhorn & what's a good price used but in great condition?

delano · Posted: Sat Apr 08, 2017 7:26 am Post subject:

I am not sure which flugelhorn you mean. There is a Jupiter JFH 1100R which means J(upiter) F(lugel) H(orn). The 1100 seems to be the successor of the 846. The R means a trigger.
I expected the bore size of this horn to be 0.433, like the 846 which was in fact a Yamaha 631/731 clone (like a lot of the Chinese flugels).
But I am not sure because there is a lot of confusing about the bore size of this horn.
All the German sites like the official German Jupiter sites and also Thomann mention a trumpetbore, 0.459 (11.68 mm):

https://www.thomann.de/gb/perinet_flugelhorns.html?filter=true&manufacturer%5B%5D=Jupiter

Dillon and Sam Ash give a medium bore, the Yamaha 0.433 bore:

http://www.dillonmusic.com/p-2427-jupiter-jfh1100r-3-valve-bb-flugelhorn-with-rose-brass-bell-in-lacquer.aspx

http://www.samash.com/jupiter-846rl-bb-flugelhorn-j846rlxxx

The international Jupiter site gives a French bore, 0.413:

http://jupitermusic.com/international/products/brass/flugelhorns/

just like Chuck Levin:

http://www.chucklevins.com/products/jupiter-jfh1100r-intermediate-bb-rose-brass-bell-flugelhorn.html

So??

GuidoCorona · Posted: Sat Apr 08, 2017 8:45 am Post subject:

What seems to be the US Jupiter site shows a .413 bore for JFH1100R.... Also, some of the wording would seem to suggest that this might be a renamed 846. A call to Jupiter or one of the Jupiter dealers like Austin Custom Brass might solve the issue... Or, may be, give it a further twist *Grins!*

http://jupitermusic.com/us/products/brass/flugelhorns/jfh1100r/

Saluti, G.
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TrumpetMD · Posted: Sat Apr 08, 2017 8:54 am Post subject:

delano · Posted: Sat Apr 08, 2017 11:01 am Post subject:

GuidoCorona · Posted: Sat Apr 08, 2017 11:21 am Post subject:

Hello Delano... My keyboard is innocent of all animal shouts. The culprit is thine truly. I prefer the oldfashioned splatting of exclaimed words to new-fangled smilies and even newer-fangled graphic emogees, which tend to be real pains to read with my screen reading software.

Saluti, G.
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bassguy · Veteran Member Joined: 25 May 2016 Posts: 336

GuidoCorona

Adams flugels use the large taper. Their bores are as follows:

F1 -- 0.413
F2 -- 0.413
F3 -- 0.433
F4 (4-valves) -- "0.413" reaching to 0.433"
F5 -- 0.413

Getzen 4895 uses the large taper, and has a 0.420 bore.

G.
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delano · Posted: Sat Apr 08, 2017 12:24 pm Post subject:

There is no necessary connection between bore size and the mouthpieceshank specs

delano · Posted: Sat Apr 08, 2017 12:27 pm Post subject:

delano · Posted: Sat Apr 08, 2017 12:29 pm Post subject:

GuidoCorona · Posted: Sat Apr 08, 2017 12:42 pm Post subject:

No worries Delano... You are in good company. My father often could not understand my point either ;)

Saluti, Guido
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delano · Posted: Sun Apr 09, 2017 7:37 am Post subject:

GuidoCorona · Posted: Sun Apr 09, 2017 8:03 am Post subject:

Thankfully father lost his own acerbic sense of humor after I turned 18... Thus, no physical action associated to his morosities.

G.
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