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jhatpro Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Sat Apr 15, 2017 9:57 am Post subject: Easter Gig Advice |
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I'm playing second trumpet on Easter Sunday in a two trumpet/trombone ensemble.
Any advice on how best to support the lead trumpet?
Also, at one point in one of the pieces ("This Day Was Made by the Lord") the second part leaps from an F# in the staff up to A, G# and F# above the staff and I'm a little worried about intonation.
Would it be advisable to play the higher series down an octave? _________________ Jim Hatfield
"The notes are there - find them.” Mingus
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Benge.nut Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Sat Apr 15, 2017 10:00 am Post subject: Re: Easter Gig Advice |
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jhatpro wrote: | I'm playing second trumpet on Easter Sunday in a two trumpet/trombone ensemble.
Any advice on how best to support the lead trumpet?
Also, at one point in one of the pieces ("This Day Was Made by the Lord") the second part leaps from an F# in the staff up to A, G# and F# above the staff and I'm a little worried about intonation.
Would it be advisable to play the higher series down an octave? |
If the higher parts are in unison, definitely play them down an octave.
And supporting a lead player means HIS voice stands out and is on top, but your right underneath him. Don't leave him alone in volume of support either. Never louder, or pushing him to play louder than he wants to. Listen to him for intonation and articulation and cut offs unless he asks your opinion.
Other than that have fun! |
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Sturmbill Veteran Member
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Posted: Sat Apr 15, 2017 10:34 am Post subject: |
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Benge.nut took the words right out of my mouth, but I would also say to maybe support him or her by taking a few of unisons by yourself so that they can get the horn off their face, if even for a measure or so. We worked that out this morning in rehearsal just to give her a little down time.
Good luck with your gig! _________________ Noli illegitimi carborundum... Joe Stilwell |
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Craig Swartz Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Sat Apr 15, 2017 11:12 am Post subject: |
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Play the right notes at the right volume at the right time. |
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jhatpro Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Sat Apr 15, 2017 12:14 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks! The only piece that worries me is the 6/8 tune with tricky fills that are way different than the first part. I've been singing it like crazy with a metronome and it's getting easier. _________________ Jim Hatfield
"The notes are there - find them.” Mingus
2021 Martinus Geelan Custom
2005 Bach 180-72R
1965 Getzen Eterna Severinsen
1946 Conn Victor
1998 Scodwell flugel
1986 Bach 181 cornet
1954 Conn 80A cornet
2002 Getzen bugle |
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mcstock Veteran Member
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Posted: Sat Apr 15, 2017 3:34 pm Post subject: |
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I've found it useful to imagine how the first player would sound if he could play second to himself.
FWIW
Matt _________________ “It is impossible for a man to learn what he thinks he already knows.”
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dstdenis Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Sun Apr 16, 2017 3:41 am Post subject: |
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Don't be timid or uncertain. Play your part like you're sure about everything. But don't play louder than the 1st tpt. You're his wingman--follow him closely and don't overshadow his/her sound. _________________ Bb Yamaha Xeno 8335IIS
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jhatpro Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Sun Apr 16, 2017 5:41 am Post subject: |
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Thanks, all! Got a big help from a great player, Lev Garbar, who played both parts on my iPhone - singing with it really implanted the correct rhythm in my head. _________________ Jim Hatfield
"The notes are there - find them.” Mingus
2021 Martinus Geelan Custom
2005 Bach 180-72R
1965 Getzen Eterna Severinsen
1946 Conn Victor
1998 Scodwell flugel
1986 Bach 181 cornet
1954 Conn 80A cornet
2002 Getzen bugle |
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jhatpro Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Sun Apr 16, 2017 11:29 am Post subject: |
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Gig went well despite some tricky road maps and a piece in 6 sharps! It sure is easier to play along side a talented lead player like the guy on Trumpet 1 - TH member Rob Loar, a wonderful player with great time and sound! _________________ Jim Hatfield
"The notes are there - find them.” Mingus
2021 Martinus Geelan Custom
2005 Bach 180-72R
1965 Getzen Eterna Severinsen
1946 Conn Victor
1998 Scodwell flugel
1986 Bach 181 cornet
1954 Conn 80A cornet
2002 Getzen bugle |
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jaysonr Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Sun Apr 16, 2017 11:33 am Post subject: |
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Glad your gig went well. As a church musician, I get 6 sharps in my Bb parts quite often. Depending on the style, sometimes I use my C and cut two sharps off. There is one piece we do semi-regularly that modulates from 6 sharps in the Bb parts to 4 flats, so I'm stuck w/ a 6-figure key signature no matter which horn I choose _________________ Isaiah 40:8
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derekthor Veteran Member
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Posted: Sun Apr 16, 2017 3:34 pm Post subject: |
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Good piece of advice: if you're at the service and you've got a hymn in front of you and you're wondering whether or not it's a good idea to break out your piccolo, it's probably not a good idea... |
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