Posted: Sat Apr 15, 2017 3:40 pm Post subject: Sly Stallone giving the trumpets some pointers
Check out the grace and respect from Dennis Farias, Warren Luening, Charley Davis, Bob Findley, Rick Baptist, Wayne Bergeron, Malcolm McNab, Gary Grant, and Larry Hall.
Sly is telling them how he thinks the score should be played, and the cats all listen and show respect and nobody shows any "who the hell do you think you are...or we don't come to your job and tell you how to act" stuff.
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Posted: Sat Apr 15, 2017 10:22 pm Post subject:
that's a lot of lead players in one room ....... _________________ ron meza (deadbeat jazz musician) & (TH 5 post ghost neighborhood watch ringleader)
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Posted: Wed Apr 19, 2017 9:05 pm Post subject:
He's the client. He's the one footing the bill for the studio, musicians, and techs. If the client isn't happy with the service that's being provided, it's entirely normal for him to ask for changes.
It seems clear to me that he simply wanted them to play louder. "It's an explosion of air where you're pushing as hard as you can possibly push. So, it isn't like a controlled thing..." _________________ Why postpone today what you can postpone tomorrow?
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Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2017 7:43 am Post subject:
(going back through this thread, I may have misinterpreted the intent of the original post - I'm not sure if it was a bit of a slam on Stallone or not, but that's kind how I took it.)
I don't see an issue with it. Just because he's an actor doesn't mean that he doesn't have a clue about what he wants to hear from the trumpets in the score of HIS movie. (This was the 2006 film "Rocky Balboa" and for this particular film, not only did he act in it, but he also wrote, produced and directed it.)
And he wasn't really telling them how to play, as much as he was trying to convey an idea about the emotional impact he wanted it to have.
And Stallone IS Rocky - he could find any one of hundreds of other trumpet players to play trumpet on his movie, but who else is going to play Rocky?
Also something to consider, Stallone isn't just an actor - he directed the 2006 film "Rocky Balboa", and he's been a writer and producer for a long time as well. While we can all laugh about some of the stinkers he's been in, the guy has done some quality film work - he's no dummy. He wrote the screen play to both "Rocky" and "First Blood" - both of which are considered to be great films.
I've got no problems with what's going on in the video- it looked like a good collaboration between the director of a movie and the folks recording the score of the film. _________________ Patrick Gleason
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I think the whole thing is awesome. A room full of some f my favorite trumpet heroes, Stallone is one of my heroes of the movie world as well.
I think I learned most of my life lessons about respect, self respect, overcoming adversity, going the distance, and accepting who I am from Rocky movies as a kid.
And First Blood WAS an awesome story and movie about a Vietnam era Vet coming home and trying to readjust. The other Rambo movies?? Meh...
Rocky 6 (Rocky Balboa) was written and directed and largely funded by Sly, so of course I have no problem nor wouldn't if I was working in that room, with hearing some pointers on what he wanted.
Side note: Stallone won an Oscar for HIS screenplay of the original Rocky movie. It was Sly's story and took him years to sell it with the caveat that he also act and star in the movie which wasn't an easy sell for him.
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Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2017 7:57 am Post subject:
Stallone also went to the MD, Bill Conti, first and whispered what he wanted. Then Conti invited him to speak directly to the band. _________________ Bb Yamaha Xeno 8335IIS
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Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2017 8:17 am Post subject:
We discussed this a few years ago. It got heated and I think the thread was deleted. Heated leads to deleted. One of the things that came though was that there were no dynamics or style markings on the charts. _________________ 1938 Martin Handcraft Imperial #2 bore, 38 bell
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Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2017 1:39 pm Post subject:
I witnessed a talk with Malcolm McNab where is spoke about how Conti pitched the opening fanfare based on some historical tune. He even had the original piece of paper where Conti had sketched it out. And it was Malcolm that showed Conti how that theme could work. _________________ "I'm an engineer, which means I think I know a whole bunch of stuff I really don't."
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Posted: Fri Apr 21, 2017 4:08 pm Post subject:
The "historical tune" on which the piece is based is a Sonatina that is the first track on Edward Tarr's 1969 Nonesuch recording, The Art of the Baroque Trumpet. Great recording.
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