Rotary Trumpet Mouthpiece Question

tjyune

Hello,

I am new to rotary trumpets and I had a question about the mouthpiece selection. I heard from my friend that JK Exclusive mouthpiece is best for rotary trumpets. Does anybody know in detail why this is? Also, I play on a 1-1/4C (Bach Size) and what should I use on a rotary (C-Trumpet, J. Scherzer) trumpet?

Best,

Joseph
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trompette229 · Veteran Member Joined: 21 Mar 2016 Posts: 203

I would try a JK 4C or 4B. Most prefer the B. They have a bowl shape and backbore that seem particularly well suited to rotary....and they're inexpensive.

tjyune · Posted: Wed Apr 19, 2017 1:43 pm Post subject:

Thank you for your insight!
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Bstradivarius · Posted: Wed Apr 19, 2017 8:23 pm Post subject:

I like Breslmaier. Contact Chuck Levins music for the compatible size. I don't know anything about JK.
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Bstradivarius · Posted: Wed Apr 19, 2017 10:14 pm Post subject:

GordonH · Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2017 1:00 am Post subject:

You might find the Breslmair G2 a better bet as they make a 1 1/4C rim for it.
You will probably prefer one of their more open backbores at first trial, but it is worth persevering with the 2. One thing I have noticed is that the sound is awful in a small room, but in a concert setting it is great. SO don't be put off by what sounds like poor tone. The Breslmair throat is #24 by the way. The G2 cup is probably close to a Bach no letter.
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tjyune · Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2017 8:20 am Post subject:

Wow. This site is awesome. So many expert advises. I'll try to research some of your suggestions. Thank you!
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johntpt · Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2017 12:15 pm Post subject:

You also might try a JK 1 1/4C from their USA line, which I find also work well on rotary trumpets. They can be ordered with either a stock throat which is a 28, or a 3.8 throat which is a 24. My favorite is to open a stock model to a 26. Dillon Music sells these for about $40.

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tjyune · Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2017 11:33 pm Post subject:

Thank you for the suggestions! I'll look into it.
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Dashtrpt · New Member Joined: 25 Aug 2016 Posts: 4

I like the JKs as well

Bflatman · Heavyweight Member Joined: 01 Nov 2016 Posts: 720

My understanding is:-

Cornets have deep cups and those enhance the rich tones.

Piston trumpets have smaller cups and that enhances the trumpet tones.

Orchestral trumpet players tend to play deep cups for rich tones.

Rotary valve trumpets are often used in orchestral and tend to have even deeper cups than valve trumpet mouthpieces.

valve trumpet generally uses 3c to 10c

orchestral valve trumpet tends to be more 1.5c

rotary valve trumpet 1c and up

I use a rotary mouthpiece on my valve horn, its around a 1c, it is a yamaha 16e4 and delivers slinky rich tones. It is high quality and very affordable.

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BSTRUMPET85 · Regular Member Joined: 18 Sep 2004 Posts: 98

Contact Holger Mack at Dowids Trumpets in Munich. He has made mouthpieces for most of Germany's top german "rotary" trumpet players. He has me some great mouthpieces over the past few years and can answer any questions you may have. The german trumpet mouthpiece he made me was a Yamaha 16E top with his 86 throat and VS backbore. http://www.dowids.de/index.php?inh=mundst

chrisroyal · Posted: Mon May 29, 2017 7:06 pm Post subject:

Breslmair throats are only a little bigger than the 25 drill (they are a 3.80mm bore), not a 24 drill (3.86mm). However the Yamaha mouthpieces (16E4, 15E4, 14E4) have a 3.88 bore or just little larger than a 24 throat. Some people, (like some members of the the Berlin Phil) like the Yamaha pieces with Breslmair rims. I put true Bach 1C rims on my 15E4 for Schagerl Bb and C rotaries.

I have found Thomann.de a great source for quick shipping of Breslmair pieces, and Mouthpiece Express is great for Yamaha. Osmun or Bob Reeves can put your rim on a Yamaha underpart, or even add sleeves for better blow.