Selmer Paris cornet serial number list - help wanted!

derby_mute

I'm hoping to put together an accurate as possible list for Selmer Paris cornets. The s/n lists online are for trumpets ONLY.

If you have an accurate date that you have obtained from Selmer or some other means of accurate dating, can you let me know, please? If you don't want to give me the whole s/n, even a partial number, like 145x, would be fine.

Thank you,
Chris
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Cornets:
Selmer model #43
Selmer Concept
Baldwin Custom (Blessing Artist stencil)
1923 Buescher shepherd's crook
1880 F. Besson Paris
Trumpets:
1931 Cleveland Greyhound
1935 Olds French model

FrankM · Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2015 1:43 am Post subject:

http://rouses.net/asrtrmpt.htm

Hi Chris . Do you know about this site?

Cheers, Frank
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derby_mute · Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2015 5:02 am Post subject:

Yes, I do know about that site. But there is no information about cornets there. There is no information regarding the cornet serial numbers anywhere on the 'net.
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Cornets:
Selmer model #43
Selmer Concept
Baldwin Custom (Blessing Artist stencil)
1923 Buescher shepherd's crook
1880 F. Besson Paris
Trumpets:
1931 Cleveland Greyhound
1935 Olds French model

TheBrassBandMajor · Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2015 1:44 am Post subject:

HI derby_mute!

I've just pulled a list from Conn Selmer with a list of serial numbers for Selmer Paris not sure if it's a cornet one

http://www.conn-selmer.com/en-us/about/customer-service/serial-numbers/selmer-paris/
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dupac · Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2015 4:30 am Post subject:

My C/Bb Selmer Paris cornet was made in 1964. I bought it myself. It's s/n is 3507.
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derby_mute · Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2015 6:45 am Post subject:

BrassBandMajor - that list is for saxophones.

There is a trumpet only list at horn-u-copia.net
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Cornets:
Selmer model #43
Selmer Concept
Baldwin Custom (Blessing Artist stencil)
1923 Buescher shepherd's crook
1880 F. Besson Paris
Trumpets:
1931 Cleveland Greyhound
1935 Olds French model

derby_mute · Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2015 6:46 am Post subject:

derby_mute · Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2015 6:49 am Post subject:

Dupac - does yours have a removable leadpipe? I have seen the Bb/C model with both a fixed and removable leadpipe.

It may be the earlier ones, which seem to be from circa the late 1950s, had the removable leadpipe.
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Cornets:
Selmer model #43
Selmer Concept
Baldwin Custom (Blessing Artist stencil)
1923 Buescher shepherd's crook
1880 F. Besson Paris
Trumpets:
1931 Cleveland Greyhound
1935 Olds French model

derby_mute · Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2015 7:02 am Post subject:

The list so far:

442:1938
approx. 900 and earlier: pre 1942
1248: June 1957
1639 kmod: May 1957
2059: 1959
3507: 1964

The long model cornet which is the most common Selmer cornet, may have been introduced circa 1936-37, although 427 is the earliest serial number I've seen. A 1936 catalog doesn't have a long model cornet, but I have seen a photo of one from that year, or 1937.

When the K-modified was introduced the horn was redesigned with a wider wrap (vertically). This was later than the date of 1954 which is shown on selmer.fr website. The earliest K-mod cornet I have knowledge of is the one listed above from May 1957.

There was another redesign of the long model in the 1970s. The highest serial number I've found, of the redesigned horn, is 4296.

Selmer introduced the Concept cornet in the 2000s and they have a different series of serial numbers.
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Cornets:
Selmer model #43
Selmer Concept
Baldwin Custom (Blessing Artist stencil)
1923 Buescher shepherd's crook
1880 F. Besson Paris
Trumpets:
1931 Cleveland Greyhound
1935 Olds French model

dupac · Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2015 7:09 am Post subject:

No removable leadpipe. But an extension of the main tuning slide to use the cornet in Bb. I use it only in C, without that extension.
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derby_mute · Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2015 7:37 am Post subject:

Thanks, Mikel. Selmer may have discontinued the removable leadpipe in favor of a fixed. Cornet 173x has a removable leadpipe.
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Cornets:
Selmer model #43
Selmer Concept
Baldwin Custom (Blessing Artist stencil)
1923 Buescher shepherd's crook
1880 F. Besson Paris
Trumpets:
1931 Cleveland Greyhound
1935 Olds French model

markfreitas · Posted: Mon Apr 24, 2017 10:01 am Post subject:

derby_mute · Posted: Mon Apr 24, 2017 12:43 pm Post subject:

markfreitas · Posted: Tue Apr 25, 2017 5:45 am Post subject:

Likely 1937 or 1938. You can write directly to info@selmer.fr, in English, and they will give you the month and year it was made.[/quote]

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Thanks for the info. I have some questions about Selmer Paris trumpets for them, too!

markfreitas · Posted: Fri Apr 28, 2017 6:01 am Post subject:

ChopsGone · Heavyweight Member Joined: 20 Dec 2008 Posts: 1793

I can't provide an exact date for it, but I have a large-bore K-modified cornet with serial number 23XX. The case is the same gray zippered design as a K-modified trumpet I have, #228**, which dates to 1959.
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derby_mute · Posted: Thu May 25, 2017 12:46 pm Post subject:

Stanbat · Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2017 3:30 pm Post subject:

Greetings: I have a Selmer Long Cornet with serial number 580. I emailed Selmer, and here was their response:

"Dear Sir,

Unfortunately that serial doesn't appear in our old databooks.

Probably manufactured around 1949 or 1950.

No more information unfortunately. Sorry for the inconvenience."

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derby_mute · Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2017 12:04 am Post subject:

Stanbat · Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2017 9:25 am Post subject:

Hi, sorry, did not mention that the reply I got was from Thierry Doublon at Selmer.fr.
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