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cheiden
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| Nonsense Eliminator wrote: | | Hold the leadpipe, mouthpiece down, over a cushion or something else soft that will protect the mouthpiece when it falls out. Then tap the leadpipe at the mouthpiece receiver pretty firmly with something wooden -- the handle of a mallet or something like that. Quite often this will get it to release. If it won't... mouthpiece puller or tech. |
I'd be wary of hitting the leadpipe since it's relatively thin and soft. I'd think that holding the pipe and piece as you describe then tapping the backside of the rim of the mouthpiece might work better. I'd guess that something wooden isn't likely to deform the mouthpiece rim as easily as it would the leadpipe.
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homebilly
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tie a rope around the mouthpiece and hold it firmly in your hands then
tie the other side of the rope to the bumper of a '55 Chevy or Ford
pickup and have your wife gun it.
voilą
or you can get all medieval on it with
a pipewrench and a blowtorch pulp fiction style!
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starkadder
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| homebilly wrote: | tie a rope around the mouthpiece and hold it firmly in your hands then
tie the other side of the rope to the bumper of a '55 Chevy or Ford
pickup and have your wife gun it.
voilą
or you can get all medieval on it with
a pipewrench and a blowtorch pulp fiction style!
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Sooo...
Step 1: Buy a '55 pickup
Step 2: Get Married
Step 3: Pull the mouthpiece |
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JoseLindE4
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| How hot does your oven get? Surely the leadpipe and mouthpiece have different melting points. |
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homebilly
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step 4. once the mouthpiece is free get an annulment
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ghelbig
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| LittleRusty wrote: | To reuse a quote from Roy Rogers:
"Good judgment comes from experience, and a lot of that comes from bad judgment." |
Will Rogers - not Roy. Very (very) different.
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LittleRusty
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| ghelbig wrote: | | LittleRusty wrote: | To reuse a quote from Roy Rogers:
"Good judgment comes from experience, and a lot of that comes from bad judgment." |
Will Rogers - not Roy. Very (very) different.
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Andy Del
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Please post it all o me, just over the pond in 'shrimp barbie' land.
There are many parents of kids I teach who will have a bash at it for you,just because they can and they love to help out kiddies! The last one did only moderate ($450) damage to a $600 Jupiter trumpet... bought a new one, billed the parent and gave him the old one.
Or, use a mouthpiece puller. Correct tool for the job. Do this every time and you may (just) avoid looking like a total fool! Which reminds me, I need to call the bore water guy, as I 'fixed' the bore over Easter. Sigh.
cheers
Andy
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Nonsense Eliminator
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| cheiden wrote: | | Nonsense Eliminator wrote: | | Hold the leadpipe, mouthpiece down, over a cushion or something else soft that will protect the mouthpiece when it falls out. Then tap the leadpipe at the mouthpiece receiver pretty firmly with something wooden -- the handle of a mallet or something like that. Quite often this will get it to release. If it won't... mouthpiece puller or tech. |
I'd be wary of hitting the leadpipe since it's relatively thin and soft. I'd think that holding the pipe and piece as you describe then tapping the backside of the rim of the mouthpiece might work better. I'd guess that something wooden isn't likely to deform the mouthpiece rim as easily as it would the leadpipe. |
Maybe I didn't make it clear, but the objective is to tap the leadpipe right at the end of the receiver -- on a Bach, you hit the hex-shaped part -- so you're striking it where it's reinforced by the stuck mouthpiece. I don't know exactly why it works, but it works.
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Steve Hollahan
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| Posted: Tue Apr 25, 2017 11:59 am Post subject: Stuck mouthpiece |
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I pull stuck mouthpieces a lot - no charge! Take it to a shop.
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or you can get all medieval on it with
a pipewrench and a blowtorch pulp fiction style!
You can joke about this but my dad (who drank a lot of beer) hd this method the first time my mouthpiece got stuck.
two slabs of wood to protect the vale section put the horn in a vice. Take a blow torch and a pipe wrench to heat up and twist off the m/pc.
It didn't remove the m/pc but it popped every brace my Blessing Artist trumpet.
I told him my teacher had a puller. We took it to the local shop ... it was out in 1 minute and cost $5.00..... The repair to the braces $25.00. This was in the early '50's!
Jimmy
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TRUMPONIMUS
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or you can get all medieval on it with
a pipewrench and a blowtorch pulp fiction style!
You can joke about this but my dad (who drank a lot of beer) hd this method the first time my mouthpiece got stuck.
two slabs of wood to protect the vale section put the horn in a vice. Take a blow torch and a pipe wrench to heat up and twist off the m/pc.
It didn't remove the m/pc but it popped every brace my Blessing Artist trumpet.
I told him my teacher had a puller. We took it to the local shop ... it was out in 1 minute and cost $5.00..... The repair to the braces $25.00. This was in the early '50's!
Jimmy
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Robert P
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| starkadder wrote: | Put the leadpipe in a vise, grab the mouthpiece with a pipe wrench, and give it a good hard twist. Put your full weight into it.
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That's the easy way - I prefer to demonstrate some skill using an angle grinder. The trick is stopping when you're through the leadpipe but before you nick the mouthpiece.
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