Maynard's Flugelhorns

burnhamd · Posted: Sat May 13, 2017 1:32 pm Post subject: Maynard's Flugelhorns

Just curious, what brand and model flugelhorns did Maynard play from the 80's on. I assume he played Holton but I can't find out any info.
Thanks,
Dan
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burnhamd · Posted: Sat May 13, 2017 4:05 pm Post subject: Thanks

Thanks for the info,
Dan
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deleted_user_02066fd · New Member Joined: 03 Apr 1996 Posts: 0

I agree about Maynard's fluglehorn sound but only in his later years. I loved his sound on MF Horn 1&3. Ballad For Max, The Valachi Papers and the first stanza of Round Midnight are particular favorites. His sound on trumpet and flugle changed a lot in later years. I suspect it was mouthpiece related as someone pointed out.

John Mohan · Posted: Sat May 13, 2017 6:10 pm Post subject:

He played either a LeBlanc or a Holton Flugelhorn when I saw him in concert in the mid '70's through early '80s. I think it was a LeBlanc horn. I think he sounded great on Flugel at least at that time.

burnhamd · Posted: Sun May 14, 2017 7:39 pm Post subject: Thanks Guys

Guys,
Thanks for the info and input,
Dan
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GordonH · Posted: Mon May 15, 2017 12:10 am Post subject:

Video of him playing a Courtois.

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Benge.nut · Heavyweight Member Joined: 18 Mar 2017 Posts: 695

Interesting to see Maynard switching between different Bbs as well. He still sounds very powerful at this stage. Early 90s??

And he's wearing a very nice conservative moo-moo on this particular gig. Oh Maynard....such very odd choices and styles over the years

razeontherock · Posted: Mon May 15, 2017 6:48 am Post subject:

While I wouldn't say Maynard sounds 'awful' in that clip, I would say that's a good example of how not to blow a flugel. He shows what happens when you blow it as though it were a trumpet; the sound isn't much different from trumpet, and you force every intonation quirk into its worst possible position.

Pretty sure the two trumpets each have a different mpc., and he probably adjusted the tuning slides ahead of time. First time I've ever seen someone else do that.

When I saw Chuck Mangione give a clinic to a bunch of HS kids he said you can't blow a FL the way you can a trumpet, you have to woo it like a woman. This clip shows the Courtois can take it and not back up!

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Yeah, Maynard sounds as delicate as a bulldozer on flugelhorn. I've never really heard an example of him playing flugelhorn with much finesse and you're right, he sounds more like a trumpet than a flug.

Those Courtois are larger bore horns as well, if memory serves. Whatever the combination of variables, MF sounds like a nasally trumpet on his flugel recordings. Not a sound I'd go after.

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What mouthpiece was he using in the clip of But Beautiful?

razeontherock · Posted: Mon May 15, 2017 8:56 pm Post subject:

"As delicate as a bulldozer," haha yes. Isn't that what we love about his playing though? On any instrument, when was he anything else?

blbaumgarn · Heavyweight Member Joined: 26 Jul 2017 Posts: 705

I don't have alot of tracks of him playing flugelhorn. I still preferred the buttery sound of Mangione but I wouldn't have seen Maynard to know what flugel he played because I would have been genuflecting face down on the floor. Took a couple high school kids to see him at a h.s. concert in southern minnesota. We took front row seats and got to talk a while with Stan Mark before the concert.
We were all blown away. His sidemen were so awesome. Somewhere I still have some 33 rpm discs of him playing dance standards and stuff. The one and only MF!