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RussellDDixon Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Mon May 22, 2017 1:31 pm Post subject: Yamaha YTR 8340EM Question |
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Greetings Brotherhood,
I have played the Yamaha YTR 8340EM since 2007 and continue to enjoy it thoroughly. Everything I have found has indicated that this is a "poly-bore" horn. For those who may be in the know ... is this consider a smaller bore, medium or larger bore horn ? I am just curious.
It is also my understanding that the Yamaha 8310Z is designed with the Schilke B6 in mind ?
Just seeking informative opinions etc. _________________ Schilke X3 Bb trumpet
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James Becker Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Tue May 23, 2017 11:26 am Post subject: Re: Yamaha YTR 8340EM Question |
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RussellDDixon wrote: | Greetings Brotherhood, For those who may be in the know ... is this consider a smaller bore, medium or larger bore horn ? I am just curious.
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Yes, all of the above. The reverse leadpipe upper tube is .460", the valve section bore is .445" while the slide crooks and main tuning slide are .468" extra large bore. So you can understand why they call it "Multi bore".
I hope this is helpful. _________________ James Becker
Brass Repair Specialist Since 1977
Osmun Music Inc.
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Acton, MA 01720
www.osmun.com
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RussellDDixon Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Tue May 23, 2017 6:21 pm Post subject: |
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Thank you James _________________ Schilke X3 Bb trumpet
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brassmusician Veteran Member
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Posted: Wed May 24, 2017 12:18 am Post subject: |
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Russell can you tell us something about the horn, what you like about it compared to other horns you have played? How versatile is it? thanks. |
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giakara Heavyweight Member
Joined: 13 Jul 2003 Posts: 3832 Location: Greece
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Posted: Wed May 24, 2017 5:03 am Post subject: |
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How you compare this horn against 8310Z.
Regards _________________ Lawler TL5-1A Bb 2015
Lawler TL6-1A Bb 2004
Lawler TL5-1A Bb 2003
Getzen eterna 910 C
Getzen eterna 850 cornet
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Benge.nut Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Wed May 24, 2017 6:10 am Post subject: |
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I don't know all the specs of that horn, but I've played a friends a couple times. They play like a Shew horn on steroids!!
Both horns kinda play like a medium bore Schilke but a touch tighter blow, and a more colorful sound. But Eric's horn can get wide and fun!! I think it's that massive bell maybe?
I often wonder why you don't see more of those horns in silver plate though? |
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RussellDDixon Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Wed May 24, 2017 8:24 am Post subject: |
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It is extremely versatile. Depending on the mouthpiece used, you can get just about any tone you want. It doesn't play tight at all to me. Very lightweight so you can feel it resonating when you play.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s5MwbkBSXVQ _________________ Schilke X3 Bb trumpet
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Pete Heavyweight Member
Joined: 24 Nov 2001 Posts: 1739 Location: Western Massachusetts
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Posted: Wed May 24, 2017 11:44 am Post subject: |
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Russell,
I was expecting you to be playing! Although Steve plays great!
I had an 8340EM for a while. I have had my 8310Z since 2005. The 8340EM is a bit lighter, the bell taper is a bit different as well as the horn having a 5 1/4" bell as opposed to the 5" bell on the Shew. Both horns play well, but I just prefer the 8310Z.
Bob Malone has done wonderful things in research, design and development of the Yamaha line along with artist input.
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RussellDDixon Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Wed May 24, 2017 7:00 pm Post subject: |
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Pete ...
Is the 6310Z / 8310Z designed with the Schilke B6 in mind ?
Thanks ... _________________ Schilke X3 Bb trumpet
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SatchmoGillespie Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Wed May 24, 2017 8:27 pm Post subject: |
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I got an 8340EM a while back via trade and I thought it was a very good horn. I would have kept it, but needed the money and also needed to downsize. If you just sit back and relax on it, you can really make the horn sing. The gentleman that bought it from me actually owned one and wanted mine as a backup. He clearly liked them. _________________ Jim New S5 M and MS with C Backbore
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Pete Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Thu May 25, 2017 3:55 am Post subject: |
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RussellDDixon wrote: | Pete ...
Is the 6310Z / 8310Z designed with the Schilke B6 in mind ?
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Hi Russell,
As far as I know, the original 6310/6310B (before 6310Z) was based on Bob McCoy's Martin Committee. I think that there is some info out on the internet about this, refered to by Bobby Shew. The B6 is more likely based on the Martin Committee also, as Mr. Schilke was part of the "committee", the owner/ designer of Schilke trumpets and assisted Yamaha in their production of the 600/700 series pro trumpets back in the 70's.
So the 6310Z/8310Z/8340EM are refined versions of the previous Yamaha commercial trumpets. If I am not mistaken, EM used to play on a Schilke X3.
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Pete Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Thu May 25, 2017 12:03 pm Post subject: |
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Here is some info from http://abel.hive.no/trompet/playerhorn/ :
Bob McCoy:
Martin-Committee 2B 9 (he loaned to Bob Malone to copy the first 636 models -later became the Shew models)
Besson for many years
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