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Trumpetdude0823
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PostPosted: Thu May 25, 2017 7:09 pm    Post subject: Grad... Reply with quote

I have been slowly looking at grad schools because I have plenty of time left in undergrad but i was wondering what are y'alls thought on Yale with Allen Dean?, Rice with Barbara butler and Charles geyer? Does Ryan anthony teach anywhere?
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PostPosted: Sun May 28, 2017 3:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

They are all fantastic. Consider North Texas. Please also be very aware of your finances. Reality will kick in someday and it would be wise to avoid debt.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 03, 2017 11:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's a lot of money to invest for a career in a dying industry. Those are my thoughts.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 03, 2017 12:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As someone with a master's in trumpet performance from an American school, I concur with the above two posters. However, Yale is free for grad students, and I believe Rice is the same. If you're at that level, Colborn (sp?) is another one to check out.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 03, 2017 8:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yale is a good option. Very hard to get into because the studio size for MM and DMA is 6.
Rice is also good but it is also difficult to get into. I believe they take 1 or 2 students a year?
Eastman School of Music with Jim Thompson. (Slight positive bias towards this school)
McGill with Paul Merkelo
Juilliard with Mark Gould while he is still teaching
Colbourn with Jim Wilt would also be fantastic and also free I believe?
New England Conservatory has several fine professors to study with.
Royal Academy, Royal College, and Guildhall are all fine schools as well with numerable performance, learning, and professional opportunities in a major city, but those are in London and an international move may not be for everyone.
These below are all good options that are less "pie in the sky" schools. Always safer to have a backup. Too many of my colleagues applied to dream schools only and been burned by that decision.


The University of Maryland with Chris Gekker.
Indiana University with Ed Cord
The University of North Texas with Jason Burgman (spelling?)
A really rather cheap and safe option would be the University of Utah with Peyden Shelton.
The University of South Carolina with James Ackley
The University of California: Los Angeles with Jens Lindemann. Although this one is competitive to get into.
The University of Southern California with Tom Hooten now I believe?
Boston University with Terry Everson
The University of Massachusets Amhurst with Eric Berlin
There are good schools in Michigan as well for grad school.

I'm sure I've missed several fine schools, but these are the ones that come to the front of my mind this moment. It depends on your budget and what you're looking to do with the trumpet.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 04, 2017 9:53 am    Post subject: Re: Grad... Reply with quote

Trumpetdude0823 wrote:
Does Ryan anthony teach anywhere?


He teaches at Southern Methodist University last I checked.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 04, 2017 12:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I believe Mark Ridenour is on the faculty at Roosevelt University here in Chicago.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 06, 2017 7:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think it would be best to really think about what you really want to focus on. It really matters if you want to become an orchestral, chamber, soloist, versatile, military musician, new music, baroque specialist, professor, jazz, rock/funk band member etc. Then it's important to evaluate yourself and your needs, if there is some aspect of your fundamentals that still need help- look for the teachers that can help you.

So if you study with Charlie and Barbara, they will prepare you for an orchestral job, and they have had great success at that, so if that's what you want to do, that's the way to go.

If you're considering Yale, Allan Dean will tell you that he concentrates on chamber music, you'll be assigned to a brass quintet, he'll also teach you how to lead masterclasses etc, and he can play baroque trumpet and cornetto (so you can learn to play those too, which most teachers in the US can't teach). However, if you do bring in orchestral excerpts, he'll help, but that's not his main focus. I've heard he is an amazing person and teacher.

So the good thing with Ryan Anthony is that he has done both chamber and orchestral, is still currently playing in Dallas Symphony, but I don't know anything about his teaching. As people have mentioned earlier, he does teach at Southern Methodist University. But you might also consider Ray Mase at Juilliard, he has done both chamber and orchestral: Summit Brass, ABQ, and principal at the NYC Ballet.

Other schools to think about:
The "main" Orchestral schools (in no particular order): Colburn, Rice, Northwestern, CIM, CCM, Indiana, San Francisco, Eastman, Mannes, Manhatten, Juilliard, NEC, Temple, Peabody etc. (probably forgetting some)
You might also look into schools in Europe, like in Germany: Munich, Hamburg, and Cologne.. there are far more full time orchestras in Germany than in the US, and you have to study in Germany to get in in one. Downside is language, different instruments, international status (work authorization and finances might be a bit complicated).

And then there is another consideration on schools that offer assistantships, so besides avoiding taking huge loans, it can lead to collegiate teaching opportunities that would be helpful in doctoral applications (depending on a school) and then professorship applications (showing prolonged experience in teaching at a college level). There is a list online somewhere that advertises these, I know there's one for sure on the ITG website.
Living in cities like NYC or Boston is extremely expensive, so when you take 20k-50k loans a year for tuition+fees (depending how much scholarship you get), you'd still have to consider the at least $1000/month you'd be paying in rent, and then other costs like public transportation.

The thing is that even if you're an absolutely terrific player, the competition at your year might be extremely high, so you can't guarantee to get into Rice/Colburn/Yale who only take 1-2 students per year (and might not even have an available spot the year you audition, they usually let people know in advance before applications are due if that is the case).

There are a lot of other great trumpet schools out there to also consider (a lot of these are still pretty competitive to get in), just to name a few (not in any order): Vanderbilt, University of Oklahoma, Arizona State, Baylor, CalArts, Oklahoma State, Rutgers University, Hartt School of Music, University of Houston, Lynn, University of Miami (FL), Miami University (OH), Boston University, Boston Conservatory, University of Georgia, University of Illinois Urbana-Champagne, Ithaca, Carnegie Mellon, DePaul, University of Wisconsin-Madison, University of Colorado-Boulder, University of Oregon, Ohio University, University of Kentucky, University of Tennessee, Tennessee Tech, University of Missouri-Kansas City, James Madison, Bowling Green State (OH), Southern Methodist University, University of North Texas, University of Texas-Austin, University of South Carolina, University of North Carolina - Greensboro, University of Southern California, and others people have already mentioned and plenty others to think of.

Good luck!
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 07, 2017 5:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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That's a lot of money to invest for a career in a dying industry. Those are my thoughts.


It is no more dying now than it ever has been. Changing maybe, and maybe struggling in some areas, but I am happy to say I have never been busier or compensated better.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 07, 2017 11:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

While not specifically mentioned, University of Michigan deserves to be on any list of serious consideration for trumpet playing. Professor Campbell is very big on making sure orchestral training, chamber music experience, and solo rep are covered and helping push yourself to the limits.

Indiana University potentials should also consider John Rommel (Profs. Cord and Tartell are great, but it was criminal to not mention Prof. Rommel!)

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 07, 2017 11:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Your best option would be to do your grad work in something other than music so you can have good job prospects when you graduate. Like maybe business or finance. Then you could still get a job that relates to music, and you could even still take lessons wherever you go, but you'll have something to show for it other than a performance degree.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 07, 2017 11:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

snichols wrote:
Your best option would be to do your grad work in something other than music so you can have good job prospects when you graduate. Like maybe business or finance. Then you could still get a job that relates to music, and you could even still take lessons wherever you go, but you'll have something to show for it other than a performance degree.


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 10, 2017 11:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

John Mohan wrote:
I believe Mark Ridenour is on the faculty at Roosevelt University here in Chicago.


This is true, along with Channing Philbrick and Neal Bernsten.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 19, 2017 2:57 pm    Post subject: Re: Grad... Reply with quote

Trumpetdude0823 wrote:
I have been slowly looking at grad schools because I have plenty of time left in undergrad but i was wondering what are y'alls thought on Yale with Allen Dean?, Rice with Barbara butler and Charles geyer? Does Ryan anthony teach anywhere?


Yale Rice Juilliard Colburn are some of the greatest grad schools. Ryan Anthony reached at SMU in texas.
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