Help with identification

p76 · Posted: Mon May 29, 2017 2:44 am Post subject: Help with identification

Hi All,

The cornet below belonged to one of our early Bandmasters at Creswick Band. We're pretty sure he won it in a competition, and I've been tasked with finding out a bit more about the horn.

Engraving on the bell reads
"Orpheus"
Manufactured expressly for
Sutton Bros. Melbourne
H. Sutton & Co
Ballarat

Must be a stencil - any help appreciated, it actually plays OK given age and condtion.

Thanks for any help.
Cheers,
Roger
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MikeGreeninger · Regular Member Joined: 26 Jul 2016 Posts: 67

I had an old Orpheus Trumpet that was manufactured in West Germany. Here is one of the only threads I have found in regards to Orpheus. http://www.trumpetmaster.com/threads/rudimentary-serial-list-boehm-meinl-alexander-etc-cornet-trumpet.80973/
All the best,
Mike

p76 · Posted: Tue May 30, 2017 3:18 pm Post subject:

Thanks Mike for sending me that information - I think those are much more recent instruments than this one.

So, not sure it's the answer, as I think the Orpheus name was chosen by the resellers, Suttons, who were an Australian music supply firm that existed from about the 1890s and closed I think in the 1920s.

From looking at the horn I'd say it's late 19th Century.

I do like the double-action waterkey...

Once again, thanks Mike

Cheers,
Roger
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Bb - Selmer Radial, Yamaha YTR634, Kanstul 1001, Kanstul 700.
C - Yamaha 641.
Cornet - Olds Ambassador A6T, Besson 723, Olds Ambassador Long.
Flugel - Kanstul 1525
Mpc. - ACB 3CS, ACB 3ES, Curry 3BBC, Kanstul FB Flugel

Andy Cooper · Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2017 3:40 pm Post subject:

Very similar to the imported Carl Fischer. Here are pics and some info suggesting that it may have been made by B&F of Austria. (Bohland and Fuchs) who also probably made some of the JW Peppers.

http://www.adirondackbranch.net/wbc13.html

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p76 · Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2017 3:55 pm Post subject:

Thanks Andy, that does indeed look very similar.

Looking to get our restored as well, for display.

Cheers,
Roger
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Bb - Selmer Radial, Yamaha YTR634, Kanstul 1001, Kanstul 700.
C - Yamaha 641.
Cornet - Olds Ambassador A6T, Besson 723, Olds Ambassador Long.
Flugel - Kanstul 1525
Mpc. - ACB 3CS, ACB 3ES, Curry 3BBC, Kanstul FB Flugel