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RandyTX
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There is another company that makes little velour-ish socks that fit the K&M's perfectly, I think they used to advertise on TH (until my ad-blocker kicked in). They are very nice, but they make the bell flare fit even tighter.
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| RandyTX wrote: | | There is another company that makes little velour-ish socks that fit the K&M's perfectly, I think they used to advertise on TH (until my ad-blocker kicked in). They are very nice, but they make the bell flare fit even tighter. |
I got my daughter one of those. Her classmates referred to it as the trumpet stand condom.
The link is http://www.brassstandsleevette.com/ |
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I heard this from a stomvi "hi kids" video, but a put a couple of hair bands girls use for ponytails around the felts. It works well for both my Buescher and Harrelson.
They're not only just for retaining your third valve slide.
My wife has probably hundreds of these buggers around.
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I stand corrected - I bought mine so long ago, I'd forgotten that they were the "Brass Stand Sleevette" instead of the Hamilton version. They definitely work on K&M stands, and the Hamiltons are also supposed to do so - after all, they're extremely flexible.
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| starkadder wrote: | | RandyTX wrote: | | There is another company that makes little velour-ish socks that fit the K&M's perfectly, I think they used to advertise on TH (until my ad-blocker kicked in). They are very nice, but they make the bell flare fit even tighter. |
I got my daughter one of those. Her classmates referred to it as the trumpet stand condom.
The link is http://www.brassstandsleevette.com/ |
I just bought these online and if I remember I will post a review on how well they work. My flugelhorn gets stuck all the time on my stand and I usually put my foot on a stand leg before picking the horn up, which can be a pain when I have to change quickly.
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Hi everyone; Tried the felt by filling in the gaps between the original felts and it didn't work. MY genius GF hypothesized that there was a vacuum being created and it wasn't the stand sticking up higher in the bell.
So she added some thin foam over some of the felt and this worked!
The foam is just a tad thicker than the felt and we bought them both at Michaels. We also used her 50% coupon and her internal beacon to find the best deal. She always comes up with good solutions!
Thanks to all for the help.
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Glad it worked out.
I DID say it was due to a vacuum hence the felt needed to be thicker then the original, in order to work.
Obviously, no-one reads my posts...(which means no-one's reading this either - Oh well...)   |
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| I'm skeptical. There's a big hole in the "vacuum" theory. |
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| mm55 wrote: | | I'm skeptical. There's a big hole in the "vacuum" theory. |
I think you are on to something. |
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| Paladin53 wrote: | | mm55 wrote: | | I'm skeptical. There's a big hole in the "vacuum" theory. |
I think you are on to something. |
Or nothing. |
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| 21trumpet wrote: | | I just bought these online and if I remember I will post a review on how well they work. My flugelhorn gets stuck all the time on my stand and I usually put my foot on a stand leg before picking the horn up, which can be a pain when I have to change quickly. |
Again, I suspect it depends upon the bell of your particular horns. I have both the K&M flugel and trumpet stands (two of the latter). My flugel (big-bell'd Kanstul 1525) fits fine normally, or with the Slevette thing, and no issues.
The trumpets and cornets vary, depending upon bell flare, with or without the sleeve, some of them still want to stick.
I simply got in the habit of putting my foot on one of the legs when I grab the horn. Problem solved. The sleeve thing mainly seems to help stop bell dings and scratches that the basic stand does not.
Anyway... mountain out of a molehill probably.
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I acknowledge your genius trumpethead!!
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| trumpethead wrote: | Glad it worked out.
I DID say it was due to a vacuum hence the felt needed to be thicker then the original, in order to work.
Obviously, no-one reads my posts...(which means no-one's reading this either - Oh well...) |
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| EBjazz wrote: | I acknowledge your genius trumpethead!!
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| trumpethead wrote: | Glad it worked out.
I DID say it was due to a vacuum hence the felt needed to be thicker then the original, in order to work.
Obviously, no-one reads my posts...(which means no-one's reading this either - Oh well...) |
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Trumpethead, we should test your theory. I suggest that you put your horn on one of these stands and then pour water into the mouthpiece. If nothing comes out the bell around the stand then you might be correct. |
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I took a different approach. i have a Hercules DS513BB stand. The rubber tip was getting stuck because the adjustable bell support would slide down just a little and let the tip go deeper into the bell. There the bell taper would grab the tip. Also, pulling the horn off the peg would loosen the peg from the base, causing the horn to wobble on the stand.
Instead of trying to cover the tip, I cut a piece of pvc pipe so it supported the adjustable support exactly where I want it to stay. When the peg doesn't penetrate that little extra bit into the bell, the tip won't stick.
Obviously this won't work if your stand doesn't use the adjustable bell support.
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I took a sock, pulled it over the stand and cut off the extra at the bottom.
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RandyTX
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| trumpetchops wrote: | | I took a sock, pulled it over the stand and cut off the extra at the bottom. |
My old hamilton stand (which I rarely use anymore outside of my practice room, since it weighs more than everything else combined) still has the same tube sock on it that I put there around 1980. Works fine.
Thing is, a sock likely wouldn't be large enough for one of the more modern K&M stands, especially the one for a flugel (which also fits an Eb tenor horn/US "alto").
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| RandyTX wrote: | | trumpetchops wrote: | | I took a sock, pulled it over the stand and cut off the extra at the bottom. |
My old hamilton stand (which I rarely use anymore outside of my practice room, since it weighs more than everything else combined) still has the same tube sock on it that I put there around 1980. Works fine.
Thing is, a sock likely wouldn't be large enough for one of the more modern K&M stands, especially the one for a flugel (which also fits an Eb tenor horn/US "alto"). |
I can tell you for sure that it works because I did it on that stand.
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During the initial design process of my trumpet stands I used rubber end caps. The horns did not get stuck but unless pulled straight up they tended to grab and tip. Also squeak! I switched to TPR or thermoplastic rubber. PVC or vinyl also works.
So replacing the rubber end cap with a TPR cap will help. This type of cap is thinner than rubber so you will create some needed space.
TPR is available in different sizes from furniture glide companies. A well designed peg should allow for space at the top so as not to grab. You can add sticky felt pads to the bottom to raise up the horn. Felt pads are available at hardware stores or big box stores. I did not read all the posts so this is probably redundant.
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