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ghelbig Heavyweight Member
Joined: 27 May 2011 Posts: 908 Location: Reno, NV
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Posted: Sun May 31, 2015 8:21 pm Post subject: |
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jungledoc wrote: | I can't find the difference between SB7X and SB7XC. Can anyone help? I'm going to buy one this week. |
For the early versions (SB7-9) the letter at the end told you which version of the headphone amp came with it.
Yamaha calls it a SB7X on their web-site. The only mention I see of SB7XC is on a (soon to be defunct) big-box music store.
I got mine from Mouthpiece Express - for about the same price as the lowest of the low on-line. And I'd rather send my money to them than to a company named after a river in Brazil (no offence to the Brazilians)
Gary. |
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jungledoc Heavyweight Member
Joined: 06 Jun 2014 Posts: 613 Location: Papua New Guinea
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Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2015 10:48 pm Post subject: |
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I've seen it with the C at the end from at least 6 on-line stores (WWBW, Musician's Friend, Sam Ash, etc, etc. Even WalMart!!! I checked Mouthpiece Expresses site, and don't see it. _________________ Andy
I'll admit it. It's a TR300, but it wants to be a Strad when it grows up. |
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McVouty Veteran Member
Joined: 01 Jul 2008 Posts: 149
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Posted: Thu Dec 31, 2015 3:02 am Post subject: |
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I've had my new STX silent brass for about 6 weeks and it has been very useful to get some extra practice time in. Unfortunately yesterday I dropped the stx box (well pulled it off the table while plugged in) and the mute jack socket broke right off - its a surface mount component held on just by the solder.
Looking for a replacement it looks like you can't buy the STX on their own but the ST9 is still available. Anybody know if the ST9 will work with the new mute?
Cheers
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Voltrane Heavyweight Member
Joined: 20 Jan 2006 Posts: 630 Location: Paris (France)
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Posted: Thu Dec 31, 2015 3:19 am Post subject: |
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Hello,
I just made a trial with the ST9 I only use with my piccolo (I bought a ST9 especially for this, so not sure it is a standard ST9 but I think so).
It technically works with the STX Bb mute but the sound with my Bb is very bad.
So useless. |
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McVouty Veteran Member
Joined: 01 Jul 2008 Posts: 149
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Posted: Thu Dec 31, 2015 6:24 am Post subject: |
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OK thanks, good to know. I'll try a repair first - time to buy a soldering iron! |
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jazzpik Veteran Member
Joined: 23 Dec 2015 Posts: 104 Location: Atlanta
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Posted: Fri Jan 01, 2016 5:52 pm Post subject: |
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OK guys you got me interested. For a flugelhorn if anyone has used them how much resistance do you experience. With a flugelhorn you play very easy no big blowing and I wonder how that affects the play with the silent mute. _________________ 1933 King Silvertone Cornet For Sale! |
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Voltrane Heavyweight Member
Joined: 20 Jan 2006 Posts: 630 Location: Paris (France)
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Posted: Fri Jan 01, 2016 11:04 pm Post subject: |
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Hello,
I also use the flugel mute and the trombone mute with my STX and all this works well.
Far better than my previous practice mutes. No problem. If you like the STX with the trumpet mute, you will like the others.
Regard. |
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kehaulani Heavyweight Member
Joined: 23 Mar 2003 Posts: 9028 Location: Hawai`i - Texas
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Posted: Fri Jan 01, 2016 11:28 pm Post subject: |
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In addition to my trumpet mute system, I also have a flugelhorn system. I don't notice any more or less resistance with it as with my trumpet system.
(BTW - just as an afterthought, I really don't need this. I probably should have gotten a new French Horn system instead, since I play Horn much more than flugelhorn. So if anyone wants to help me get a Horn system, my flugelhorn system is available.) _________________ "If you don't live it, it won't come out of your horn." Bird
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jazzfunk Regular Member
Joined: 12 Sep 2004 Posts: 61 Location: Stockholm, Sweden
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Posted: Mon May 01, 2017 12:41 pm Post subject: |
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Reviving this thread.
I'm looking to buy the new Yamaha Silent Brass for my trumpet and flugelhorn home practice sessions. I've had the old version for years and it's time to upgrade. I'm thinking of buying a complete set for one instrument and an additional single mute for the other instrument.
There seems to be two versions out there now the SB7X and the SB7X-2 (for trumpet) and SB6X and SB6X-2 for the flugelhorn.
The -2 versions appears to be the "latest" model release. Does anyone know the difference?
/K _________________ Callet Jazz (.470" bore)
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SC1 (when I'm working on MSC)
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1jazzyalex Heavyweight Member
Joined: 13 Jun 2016 Posts: 569 Location: San Jose, CA
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Posted: Mon May 01, 2017 9:31 pm Post subject: |
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McVouty wrote: | OK thanks, good to know. I'll try a repair first - time to buy a soldering iron! |
You might consider buying the replacement part, and then paying a cell phone/computer repair place to do the soldering for you, because they'll have a good professional soldering iron, the right solder, etc.
Sez the soldering snob.. _________________ Yamaha 8335LA with Blessing 3C, 5C, Schilke 11A4A |
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MaryT New Member
Joined: 14 May 2017 Posts: 5 Location: Corpus Christi, TX
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Posted: Mon May 15, 2017 6:56 pm Post subject: Silent Brass |
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Love this new system...luckily Woodwind and Brasswind was including them with purchase of a horn at the right time for me. Best thing is that this mute doesn't fall out of the bell. I had that problem with the previous model... |
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ghelbig Heavyweight Member
Joined: 27 May 2011 Posts: 908 Location: Reno, NV
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Posted: Mon May 15, 2017 8:23 pm Post subject: |
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jazzfunk wrote: | The -2 versions appears to be the "latest" model release. Does anyone know the difference? |
Near as I can determine it is new and improved electronics -a better reverberation algorithm.
Gary. |
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trumpethead Veteran Member
Joined: 21 Oct 2006 Posts: 444 Location: Australia
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Posted: Mon May 15, 2017 9:49 pm Post subject: |
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I've owned both systems and just recently sold off the newer one, after only a month or so.
The mute is quiet, the two reverb settings (IMO) were 'just right'; intonation was good, and brilliant for use as a play-along tool, but.., the resistance for me was off the planet. So restrictive.
I understand one needs to back off and play quietly when practicing on all mutes, but without the electronics, this was way too stuffy - with the electronics, actually not too bad although still hard work to use.
For me, a harmon mute makes a better practice mute for us apartment dwellers. |
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O00Joe Veteran Member
Joined: 04 Sep 2004 Posts: 364 Location: Houston & Austin, Texas
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Posted: Thu May 25, 2017 12:36 am Post subject: |
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Can I use the Silent Brass system essentially as a pick-up mic to plug into pedals and an amplifier? For example, have it plugged into a tremolo pedal and plug that into an amplifier? _________________ 1981 Bb Bach Stradivarius 37/25 ML raw - Laskey 60C
2003 C Bach Stradivarius 239/25A L silver - Stork Vacchiano 4C25C
2006 Bb/A Schilke Piccolo P5-4 silver - Reeves A adaptor - Stork SM SP6
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kallen Regular Member
Joined: 16 Jun 2016 Posts: 22 Location: SF Bay Area, California, USA
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Posted: Sat Jun 24, 2017 1:03 pm Post subject: |
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jazzfunk wrote: |
The -2 versions appears to be the "latest" model release. Does anyone know the difference?
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Amazon lists both SB7X2 and SB7Xc (and some of the older SB79c). I couldn't find online information about the differences, but the official Yamaha USA site shows the -2 model as current: https://usa.yamaha.com/products/musical_instruments/winds/silent_brass/silent_brass/specs.html#product-tabs _________________ Yamaha 8335G
Yamaha 8310Z
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Yamaha 631FH Fluegelhorn
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kallen Regular Member
Joined: 16 Jun 2016 Posts: 22 Location: SF Bay Area, California, USA
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Posted: Sat Jun 24, 2017 1:48 pm Post subject: |
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O00Joe wrote: | Can I use the Silent Brass system essentially as a pick-up mic to plug into pedals and an amplifier? For example, have it plugged into a tremolo pedal and plug that into an amplifier? |
The online manual says you can patch the headphone outputs into a recording system, provided the recording input does not supply phantom power, which would screw up the Personal Studio box. But keep in mind that the headphone output is a stereo mini jack, so unless you're patching into a stereo input, you will need some kind of a splitter cable to split the L and R signals into two mono RCA or phone plugs. (The trumpet mic input is mono, but the Personal Studio adds stereo reverb.)
It's possible you could take one of these mono outputs directly into a pedal, but it might work better to patch into an amp or mixing board and put the pedal in a send-receive loop from there. This would be an off-label use of the system, so you might have to deal with level-matching or impedance matching issues.
I just ordered a Silent Brass setup specifically to use as input to a computer running audio FX software, such as harmonizers, looping echoes, filters, etc. The idea is that I want to monitor only the processed sound, not the direct trumpet sound. By using the Silent Brass mute and a pair of closed-back headphones, I expect to get very little leakage from the trumpet itself.
I will post a followup once I see how this works out. _________________ Yamaha 8335G
Yamaha 8310Z
Yamaha 6330S-II Cornet
Yamaha 631FH Fluegelhorn
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cbtj51 Heavyweight Member
Joined: 24 Nov 2015 Posts: 725 Location: SE US
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Posted: Sat Jun 24, 2017 5:19 pm Post subject: |
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I have had the SB7X for about 2 years and use it a lot when traveling and at home when learning new parts plugging into my iPad for play along. I find that by regulating playback volume on my iPad and Mute volume on the amplifier, I can dial my sound into the play along a lot better. I used it to woodshed parts that I had one day to polish for a last minute sub performance and it served that purpose well. I don't practice with it often but it resides in my case for when I might have a need. _________________ '71 LA Benge 5X Bb
'72 LA Benge D/Eb
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BGinNJ Veteran Member
Joined: 02 Mar 2010 Posts: 380
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Posted: Sun Jun 25, 2017 9:59 am Post subject: |
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I had the new model for a year or so, decided it was a piece of crap and sold it. I'd rather use a re-nuz-it mute. The SB was wonky, out of tune. Worst of all, I ended up with a dent in my horn when I put it down on a hotel room desk, and the tangle of wires got snagged and pulled it to the floor. |
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jerikfp New Member
Joined: 01 Jun 2016 Posts: 5 Location: Jacksonville, FL
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Posted: Sat Aug 12, 2017 5:06 am Post subject: |
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Glad to see they've made improvements over the old silent brass. Although, it was really cool when it first came to the market. |
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natetpt Veteran Member
Joined: 24 Mar 2004 Posts: 139
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Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2017 4:11 am Post subject: |
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Hi all
Been looking into buying one of these recently, new baby in the house makes to finding time to practice difficult!!
I have a large 72 style bell, will the mute fit ok or will I need to do some "re-corking" to get the full advantage of the system?!
Cheers
Nate |
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