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trumpet56
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 Posted: Tue Jun 27, 2017 7:55 pm Post subject: York Cornets |
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| I have just organised an English York Cornet for one of my advanced students. I like these instruments very much although they are no longer in production unfortunately. They are very easy to play, have great BBB sound and slot very well above High C. I heard via the grapevine that when Besson bought them out they destroyed all the tooling. Is this correct? |
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GordonH
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| Posted: Wed Jun 28, 2017 5:16 am Post subject: |
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Boosey did not buy them out.
"Following the collapse of Boosey and Hawkes in 2005, Schreiber (AKA Keilwerth, who made the parts for sovereign cornets for B&H) decided to start assembling instruments themselves in Germany. These were sold under the name York Preference with model number 3027 and 3028. A version of the Prestige cornet was also sold as the York Eminence. Production of these ended in 2010 as Buffet Crampon (Courtois) started to regain market share with their relaunched Besson range. The York instruments have stainless steel valves, as do the current French made “Besson” models."
Since I wrote that, Besson production has moved to VMI in Germany (B&S, Scherzer etc), as Courtois / Buffet merged with VMI. I am not sure what happened top the tooling Keilwerth had, which presumably originally came from England.
The York brand only survived for the few years there were no Bessons available. I play on a German made Prestige and it is very good.
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trumpet56
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| Posted: Wed Jun 28, 2017 1:24 pm Post subject: |
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| Thanks for the info Gordon. I was referring to the Preference model. I think Black Dyke used a set of York's for a while? |
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GordonH
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That is correct. Quite a few of them still being played round here. Made from same parts as the Prestige just assembled in a different factory.
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Pic - Weril
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Cornet - Geneva Heritage, Conn 28A
Mouthpieces - Monette 1-5 rims and similar.
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trumpet56
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| GordonH wrote: | | That is correct. Quite a few of them still being played round here. Made from same parts as the Prestige just assembled in a different factory. |
That's interesting. Personally I have found the Prestige cornets I have played quite different in sound and response from the York Eminence. Have you had the opportunity to compare them? |
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GordonH
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| trumpet56 wrote: | | GordonH wrote: | | That is correct. Quite a few of them still being played round here. Made from same parts as the Prestige just assembled in a different factory. |
That's interesting. Personally I have found the Prestige cornets I have played quite different in sound and response from the York Eminence. Have you had the opportunity to compare them? |
I haven't, but presumably the British made ones were very similar as they were from the same stock of parts.
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Pic - Weril
Flugel - Courtois 154
Cornet - Geneva Heritage, Conn 28A
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