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trolarg Regular Member
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Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2017 2:44 pm Post subject: What would be a good inexpensive set up to record myself |
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I'm looking for a set up that can record me playing trumpet without it clipping.
Also if I could record myself playing piano and bass and loop that with some software and or hardware. So I guess I'm kinda asking for a microphone that can record trumpet and maybe some hardware so I could loop stuff that I record _________________ Bach trumpets have the best sound |
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Craig Swartz Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2017 3:02 pm Post subject: |
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Not sure I understand your needs, but I have both Zoom H2 and Hn4 recorders and they're terrific and simple. |
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trolarg Regular Member
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Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2017 3:09 pm Post subject: |
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Craig Swartz wrote: | Not sure I understand your needs, but I have both Zoom H2 and Hn4 recorders and they're terrific and simple. |
How louis records himself here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-WBgy5ancjw
for the microphone I mean and so the way I mean loop stuff is like what if I want to play something with myself so I can record the sound from my bass and my piano and just jam with that _________________ Bach trumpets have the best sound |
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aTrumpetdude Regular Member
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Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2017 3:19 pm Post subject: |
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The free open source program Audacity works for this. You might need to get a usb audio interface depending on your computer. I have a $100 apex ribbon mic that works pretty good for trumpet for the money, there are a lot of differing opinions on best budget mics or course. Shure sm 57 is another popular choice for around $100. _________________ Scodwell Boston
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trolarg Regular Member
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Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2017 3:23 pm Post subject: |
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aTrumpetdude wrote: | The free open source program Audacity works for this. You might need to get a usb audio interface depending on your computer. I have a $100 apex ribbon mic that works pretty good for trumpet for the money, there are a lot of differing opinions on best budget mics or course. Shure sm 57 is another popular choice for around $100. |
I have like software that I can record myself and edit it, its called reaper and I'm pretty fluent with stuff like that since I also produce EDM but I want something more like loop pedals or whatever that I can record maybe me playing like the form Autumn leaves with piano and bass and just have it loop.
Also what mic would you recommend ? _________________ Bach trumpets have the best sound |
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aTrumpetdude Regular Member
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Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2017 3:29 pm Post subject: |
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I use an Apex 210 ribbon mic and I like it, it sounds better for trumpet than the budget condenser mic I had. I have also had good results recording guitar with it. _________________ Scodwell Boston
90's Bach Strad MLV 65GH
1950 Bach Strad 38
1969 Conn 8b Artist
1980 238 CL
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCm1qCev_sfof-Bfj5MAMLrQ |
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trolarg Regular Member
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Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2017 3:33 pm Post subject: |
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aTrumpetdude wrote: | I use an Apex 210 ribbon mic and I like it, it sounds better for trumpet than the budget condenser mic I had. I have also had good results recording guitar with it. |
could you show me a recording you've done with it?? _________________ Bach trumpets have the best sound |
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aTrumpetdude Regular Member
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Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2017 3:45 pm Post subject: |
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You can click on my youtube channel where I demo a bunch of vintage horns, everything on there I recorded with that mic. I'm not saying it would compete with a high dollar top shelf mic, but since you said inexpensive I think it is good bang for the buck. _________________ Scodwell Boston
90's Bach Strad MLV 65GH
1950 Bach Strad 38
1969 Conn 8b Artist
1980 238 CL
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCm1qCev_sfof-Bfj5MAMLrQ |
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trickg Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2017 6:13 pm Post subject: |
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Here we go again - there are plenty of threads, both here and the TM forum, that talk about this. There are a lot of different ways a person can get there from here, so it's going to depend on:
1.) your budget
2.) how easy or complex you want it
3.) how portable you need it to be
You could do everything from getting a simple dynamic mic like a Shure SM57/58 or a cheaper clone, getting an XLR/USB converter, and then recording into some Digital Audio Workstation such Cubase or something along those lines (or if you have a Mac, Garage Band) or you could get a field recorder that has variable gain settings....so many options.
Google-fu is your friend. _________________ Patrick Gleason
- Jupiter 1600i, ACB 3C, Warburton 4SVW/Titmus RT2
- Brasspire Unicorn C
- ACB Doubler
"95% of the average 'weekend warrior's' problems will be solved by an additional 30 minutes of insightful practice." - PLP |
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trickg Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2017 6:15 pm Post subject: |
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trolarg wrote: | Craig Swartz wrote: | Not sure I understand your needs, but I have both Zoom H2 and Hn4 recorders and they're terrific and simple. |
How louis records himself here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-WBgy5ancjw
for the microphone I mean and so the way I mean loop stuff is like what if I want to play something with myself so I can record the sound from my bass and my piano and just jam with that |
There's some VERY expensive and complex recording equipment being used there - undoubtedly they are using high end preamps and interfaces, and recording into something like ProTools or Digital Performer.
Those Royer ribbon mics by themselves (x3 that I could see) are thousands of dollars. _________________ Patrick Gleason
- Jupiter 1600i, ACB 3C, Warburton 4SVW/Titmus RT2
- Brasspire Unicorn C
- ACB Doubler
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trolarg Regular Member
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Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2017 7:08 pm Post subject: |
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trickg wrote: | Here we go again - there are plenty of threads, both here and the TM forum, that talk about this. There are a lot of different ways a person can get there from here, so it's going to depend on:
1.) your budget
2.) how easy or complex you want it
3.) how portable you need it to be
You could do everything from getting a simple dynamic mic like a Shure SM57/58 or a cheaper clone, getting an XLR/USB converter, and then recording into some Digital Audio Workstation such Cubase or something along those lines (or if you have a Mac, Garage Band) or you could get a field recorder that has variable gain settings....so many options.
Google-fu is your friend. |
I could spend maybe 300 ish and id like it to be just like not super complex, just enough so I could maybe just hit record and loop what id want say it be 8 bars or 32 bars and I mean why is portability a thing? id just like it to be home _________________ Bach trumpets have the best sound |
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trolarg Regular Member
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Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2017 7:25 pm Post subject: |
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trolarg wrote: | trickg wrote: | Here we go again - there are plenty of threads, both here and the TM forum, that talk about this. There are a lot of different ways a person can get there from here, so it's going to depend on:
1.) your budget
2.) how easy or complex you want it
3.) how portable you need it to be
You could do everything from getting a simple dynamic mic like a Shure SM57/58 or a cheaper clone, getting an XLR/USB converter, and then recording into some Digital Audio Workstation such Cubase or something along those lines (or if you have a Mac, Garage Band) or you could get a field recorder that has variable gain settings....so many options.
Google-fu is your friend. |
I could spend maybe 300 ish and id like it to be just like not super complex, just enough so I could maybe just hit record and loop what id want say it be 8 bars or 32 bars and I mean why is portability a thing? id just like it to be home |
I don't need a recording program what I need is hardware for it yknowww _________________ Bach trumpets have the best sound |
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jazzjezz Veteran Member
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Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2017 11:18 pm Post subject: |
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I use a Boss RC-30 for simple recording and playback. It is a loop station too but I don't use it for that at the moment, but has the functionality.
Has manual recording level - so you can avoid the clipping.
I plug a mic in, and have the output going to a little Mackie monitor.
Good for immediate play back of phrases and playing duets with myself.
Read the specs for yourself, but I think that it will cope with what you want. |
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trolarg Regular Member
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Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2017 7:25 am Post subject: |
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wait I just found the perfect thing, here is basically what id like to do, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5j54ttgqzlk _________________ Bach trumpets have the best sound |
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trickg Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2017 9:01 am Post subject: |
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You're talking about different things - one is a live application, and the other is a recording application.
Are you trying to do this on a computer? If that's the goal, get a USB audio interface, (There are many to choose from M-Audio, Focusrite, Presonus, etc) a dynamic microphone, a budget set of studio monitors or studio monitor headphones, and call it a day. Then it's a matter of what software you are looking to use. _________________ Patrick Gleason
- Jupiter 1600i, ACB 3C, Warburton 4SVW/Titmus RT2
- Brasspire Unicorn C
- ACB Doubler
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spyke Veteran Member
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Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2017 9:05 am Post subject: |
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I recommend a Zoom handy recorder. I like the H6 but used an H4n, H4, and H2 in the past before it.
They are portable, have (sometimes interchangeable) built-in mics, microphone preamps (so you can plug in your mic of choice if you get one in the future), and can work as audio interfaces for computer-based recording as well. |
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HarryRichardson Regular Member
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Posted: Sun Jul 09, 2017 12:56 pm Post subject: |
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I've had good luck with a Zoom H2n. I've used it several times making recordings of students for ITG with success. It's the best thing I had, and it worked each time. I borrowed a Zoom Camcorder for the NTC recordings which did well too. They required a video. I'm not up with technology though. I tend to find something that works and stick with it until it no longer meets my needs. _________________ Visit www.TrumpetFinder.com for the best deals on trumpets and accessories! |
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1jazzyalex Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Sun Jul 09, 2017 4:23 pm Post subject: |
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There's a mic made by a company called Blue, called a Yeti. It's a USB mic and probably as plug-and-play as they get. That and Audacity would be my go-to.
I'm not of the finest tastes, though. Pass the Fritos. _________________ Yamaha 8335LA with Blessing 3C, 5C, Schilke 11A4A |
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strangedejavu506 New Member
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Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2017 7:49 pm Post subject: |
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I run a cheap 2 input focusrite interface right into my Mac even on a cheap mic it does a great job using garage band. But these days you can also get the presonus daw for free which opens up even more possibilities for tweaking recordings.
Another thing I have done is gone straight from my silent brass preamp into my interface. This provides a really nice warm tone that I feel like is pretty accurate without tweaking.
These days most 100-150 dollar interfaces will do you right. Most even come with built in preamps that work great! Check out presonus or focus rite any of their interfaces will do great for what you want! |
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